tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7577633936396294153.post3332276444542935278..comments2024-03-28T04:26:29.115-05:00Comments on Industrial History: II&I: Indiana, Illinois & Iowa RailroadDennis DeBrulerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13992361354510209661noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7577633936396294153.post-85113042473932593492021-08-19T13:12:55.377-05:002021-08-19T13:12:55.377-05:00I would be interested in 1873. Can you email a cop...I would be interested in 1873. Can you email a copy to bruler@xnet.com<br />Dennis DeBrulerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13992361354510209661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7577633936396294153.post-48810552907558460602020-01-14T23:20:30.444-06:002020-01-14T23:20:30.444-06:00I have bicycled and driven through these areas eve...I have bicycled and driven through these areas every summer for years, and boy have the communities and towns changed. For more than 45 years I have seen the tracks disappear.Bill Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18185147948358237022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7577633936396294153.post-67387370158386304972019-09-02T23:12:33.795-05:002019-09-02T23:12:33.795-05:00I'm afraid I don't know. Your level of exp...I'm afraid I don't know. Your level of expertise far exceeds mine.Dennis DeBrulerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13992361354510209661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7577633936396294153.post-20015362560802614152019-09-02T14:26:29.336-05:002019-09-02T14:26:29.336-05:00I have been researching the history of the Vandali...I have been researching the history of the Vandalia Line (Terra Haute & Logansport RR – later PRR) at South Bend, IN. Per the 1901 Official Ry Guide, passenger service on the TH&L Vandalia Line was extended to St. Joseph, MI utilizing II&I trackage by means of leases. One daily TH&L train originating in Terra Haute stopped at the South Bend Vandalia Station before continuing on to St. Joseph. It was an indirect route, however, getting from the So. Bend station to St. Joseph. The II&I had its own passenger service out of St. Joseph to South Bend w/ 2-daily trains in both directions that ultimately terminated in Clinton Iowa per the Ry Guide.<br />My questions are these: <br />• What/where was the II&I passenger station stop in South Bend? I doubt very much that the through-trains to Iowa were re-routed to the out of the way Vandalia Station.<br />• When was passenger service of the II&I RR terminated between South Bend & St. Joseph, MI?<br />• When was the passenger service of the Vandalia Line (which came under control of the PRR) from St. Joseph to South Bend terminated?<br /><br />Paul Flaherty email: PFlyer55@att.net<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13312569029319517024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7577633936396294153.post-10048284828347774622018-05-25T23:40:15.204-05:002018-05-25T23:40:15.204-05:00I can supply a high res map of the CR from 1873 if...I can supply a high res map of the CR from 1873 if you like.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08650371622151546427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7577633936396294153.post-80312557723389612772018-05-25T23:34:58.513-05:002018-05-25T23:34:58.513-05:00Check out a railroad proposition from the 1870'...Check out a railroad proposition from the 1870's called the Continental Railway. It might help explain what could have been the more proper Western Illinois and Eastern Iowa alignment of the II&I. Also see a paper railroad called the MK&E for Muscatine, Kewanee & Eastern. Samuel.samara@gmail.com Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08650371622151546427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7577633936396294153.post-59089956812716191252015-03-26T09:12:13.321-05:002015-03-26T09:12:13.321-05:00Excellent article. I'll add a couple of commen...Excellent article. I'll add a couple of comments. The 3I was primarily a coal-seeking RR, and terminated at Churchill, a cornfield junction SE of Ladd. This connected the 3I to the Milwaukee in Ladd and CNW at Churchill. Coal was mined in Spring Valley (viaCNW), Cherry (via Milwaukee) Ladd and Seatonville. The Illinois River bridge for the 3I was east of Depue, due south of Seatonville. The BR built the Illinois Valley and Northern (IV&N) in 1988, which included the Ladd to Zearing trackage. The route of the IV&N was more directly north of Streator and served the glass making industry in Streator, brick making in Lowell, and crossed the Ill. River at LaSalle serving a variety of industries there. The line paralleled the Rock Island to Spring Valley where it turned north, paralleling the CNW through a valley leading away from the Ill. River, thus allowing a reasonable grade up to the prairie 'flatland'. At Churchill the IV&N turned to Ladd (less than 2 miles) and then turned north to what was to become Zearing (Zearing wasn't platted until 1905), continued across the BR mainline to Walnut Jct. and Denrock. The 1905 plat of Zearing shows the 3I roundhouse in place; the only other structure was a depot (BR) I've had zero success finding documentation re: the arrangement between 3I and BR of track rights between Ladd and Zearing and how it was that 3I would build a steam facility someplace where they owned no track to get there. Ultimately, there was the roundhouse/turntable, a coaling dock and a water tower in Zearing, all shared by 3I (CI&S by that time) and BR. BTW, the track map of Ladd/Churchill is a real mess of spaghetti.Oldguybarbershopperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11837221419683576480noreply@blogger.com