Carl Venzke posted Loading wooden barrels in a CNW boxcar [This picture appears to be taken long after tank cars were invented for the transport of oil. The barrels are probably carrying "food quality" liquids. Lining the inside with glass to make a "food quality" tank car probably happened later.] |
With the discovery of oil, so much liquid (oil) needed to be shipped that the Densmore brothers got the idea of putting tanks on a flatcar because you could pour liquids into them. Vat cars continued to be used for pickles. The railroad suppliers were experienced in making wooden tanks held together with steel straps, they were called water towers and were used to refill a steam locomotive's tender. For example, Kinmundy and Centralia.
Chicago & North Western Historical Society posted Many farmers even in South Dakota where this photo was taken grew more than grain crops. Here small cucumbers are being loaded on a "pickle car" which will be hauled into Chicago by the C&NW to be made into pickles. The photo was made at the request of the C&NW publicity department some time in the 1930s. "Squire Dingee" had pickling plants all over the Midwest in those days. [Stroh, IN, used to have a Squire Dingy plant.] Reposted by Bob Chaparro, Michael Milner provided a link to a description of the harvest. |
Ted Curphey posted Halliburton Drilling Mud cars near Kirk, OR in 2017 |
The railroad industry learned how to make metal cylinders for the boiler on a steam locomotive. So someone left the decking off a flatcar and mounted a cylinder on the car's frame. They added a dome on top to allow for expansion of the fluid and to provide a flat surface for the access hatch and safety valve.
Dennis DeBruler posted A 1943 Jack Delano OWI Photo: "Chicago, Illinois. An oil train from the Southwest leaves an Illinois Central Railroad yard for the Pennsylvania railroad to be sent on to the east" [I just discovered that the Library of Congress does not create permanent links. Bummer!] |
Dennis DeBruler posted A 1942 Jack Delano OWI Photo taken in an Illinois Central yard in Chicago. |
Excerpt from a 1943 Jack Delano OWI Photo, LC-DIG-fsa-8d24311 |
1943 Jack Delano OWI Photo, LC-USW3-019332-D |
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Philadelphia, PA 05-01-2017 BLT 05-1957." It is new enough to be welded, but old enough that it still has a frame.
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Tank car designs evolved to be longer and offer different types of linings so that more liquid products could be shipped by tank cars. A contemporary tank car can easily carry the max weight allowed on tracks, 286,000 pounds, because the reason now for making the steel plate thicker is to prevent punctures when there is a derailment or failure when it has been setting in a fire for a while. The tank car pictured above is an intermediate safety design because it has a half-height head shield. The newest design no longer has a head shield because the end cap is made of thicker steel plate.
Because it took a while to develop the linings needed to protect steel, some products used wood tank cars long after oil had moved to metal cars.
Don Gerdts posted
HJ Heinz in Muscatine would have received these.
Standard Brands (SBIX) Vinegar tank cars had long lives, surviving into the late 1960s. The entire tank was made of wood, which was unusual for cars past 1900, but the nature of the vinegar dictated it be the case.
David Hill Saw many wooden wine haulers at a warehouse on the Minnesota Transfer railroad in the 1960s. |
Marty Bernard posted A 1938 Wooden Vinegar Tank Car Standard Brands SBIX 1634 Wooden Vinegar Tank Car built 1938, at the National Museum of Transportation in Kirkwood, MO, Duane Hall photo, September 1985. "This car was built out of cypress and fir wood and holds 8,100 gallons of vinegar. The tank cars were painted silver to reflect sunlight and to help keep the vinegar cool. This type of car had a relatively short track life. Wood was used for these cars as vinegar is acidic and would have been very corrosive to early steel tank cars. Less than six wooden vinegar tank cars remain in existence." Steven Ford: There is a Standard Brands vinegar plant here on Baltimore that had a fleet of these cars. They also had 2 giant 60 ft wooden tank cars ,MRCX reporting marks, plus 2 GPEX ex-milk boxcars with stainless steel tanks on each end. This plant was sieved Monday thru Friday by a Penn Central local. We used to weigh these cars at the local yard and they came in at about 77 tons loaded. They used to ship to Cates pickle company in Henderson , NC. They also shipped vinegar to the R.T. French company in Rochester, NY. I thought these cars were neat as I have 2 in HO to put together. |
A recent development in liquid transportation is containerization. Dennis DeBruler posted two photos with the comment:
Either the lining is unique to this product or they don't want to bother to clean it for another product because the placard information is painted on. I can't figure out what that picture on the left is supposed to be telling the first responders.
Another innovation was "funnel cars." These are built with a deliberate "bend" in the bottom to help thick liquids such as corn syrup to drain out.
In this 2x closeup, you can see the middle is slightly below the sidebar. So it is a funnel car, probably carrying corn syrup.
In a westbound intermodal train on BNSF in Downers Grove, IL, on 5-29-17 I saw my first container compatible tanks.They were in the piggyback part of the train instead of the double-stack deep well part. The second tank had a placard: 1993: 131 Compound, cleaning liquid (flammable)One can tell the containers are compatible with international shipping, 20' and 40', because they don't fill the spine car, which is designed for trailers and domestic 53' containers.
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Either the lining is unique to this product or they don't want to bother to clean it for another product because the placard information is painted on. I can't figure out what that picture on the left is supposed to be telling the first responders.
Dennis DeBruler posted
I normally ignore black GATX tankers. But I noticed GATX has let the paint not only fade, but peel, on this car. This is the first time I have seen significant rust spots on a tanker in interchange service. And the rust is happening in the top middle where the compression stress would be the highest. Steel's failure mode is buckling under compression stress. Furthermore, the spots are near the top where holes further reduce the strength of the tank.
It last qualification date was 2007. That means it is due for requalification in 2017. It is DOT 111A100-W-1, which I think means it has the old safety design. (However, many of the recent oil tanker derailments that had problems were using the new, "safer" design.) So I suspect they plan to scrap this car in 2017 anyhow.
I just noticed it is directly coupled to the engine (no buffer car) and the placard diamond is empty. (Edit, per a comment, I realize I had a brain burp. Not all GATX cars carry hazardous materials. Since the placard is empty, there is no need for a buffer car or "safer" cars.)
In an eastbound TP&W east of Gilman, IL on Nov 22, 2016.
Ralph Baker Dennis - I'd agree with you, but first is it accepted that this car is NOT the funnel type for thick hot liquids ?? GATX cars are leased to many firms where the contents are not singularly identified, so I can't judge the matter based on the rust effects. The car does APPEAR to be the funnel type.... Dennis DeBruler I take pictures of tank cars because I'm trying to learn about them. What is a funnel type? You reminded me that not all tank cars carry flammable liquids. In fact, this car does not have a placard, so the contents should not be a hazard. There is no need to carry corn syrup, etc., in "safer" cars. Ralph Baker Funnel tank cars are intentionally constructed with the center being lower than the ends. Thick liquids like motor oil, corn syrup, etc., are slower to drain than water, liquid chlorine, etc, so are best transported in funnel-bodied tanks. Hunter Wilson This car was built by trinity industries and looks to be a 23 under frame which would make it around a 90-99 built car. I highly doubt they would scrap this car. It is a jacketed car with fiberglass insulation. The rust spot is just jacket corrosion not on the actual tank. Easily repairable and if it's the one spot only about a $500 fix. |
Jerry Jackson posted How many weeks until plantin' begins? A friendly farmer waits for the DPU on this eastbound train to pass, Chadwick, IL Spring of 2013. [Jerry must have edited his comment based on Tony's comment.] Tony Creamer Those aren't oil tanks...... they're ADM food-grade cars....... I'm thinking FAK [Freight-All-Kinds] train. |
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Brian Wilton posted NATX 260 004 76' 4 comp. 25,611 gal. Couldn't find any more info on it,build date,etc,etc.. at Calgary Ab 1/26/19 David Luyster Xylene placard |
Jerry Jackson updated This was shot in the Milwaukee Road (Bensenville) yard in Franklin Park, IL at Franklin Ave and Wolf road. About 30 years ago. |
Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania posted View of the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania’s 55-year-old tank car No. 500001. Built in the Hollidaysburg Shops in 1966, No. 500001 was named the “Rail Whale” in a Pennsylvania Railroad employee contest. The 77-foot-long, 38,000-gallon capacity super tanker is one of two prototypes made and is the sole survivor of its class. Mike Singer: what was it designed for, specifically? Sterling Moore IV: Mike Singer I know PC used it for propane for switch heaters. PRR probably did the same. Chuck Kulesa: They carried anti-knock compounds for Dupont that were destined for the Chambers Works facility in Carneys Point ... Daniel M. Gibbs: Maybe Liquefied Petroleum Gas or maybe Vinyl Chloride. Some if not all or most of those 6-axle tank cars carried Vinyl Chloride. |
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