(Update: Strauss designed some very similar looking direct-lift bridges. There is one left in the USA and another in Canada.)
1 of 4 photos posted by Andy Zukowski Photos sent to me by Richard Engel, his Grandfather (Joseph Zolper) was the Bridge Tender on the CB&Q in LaSalle, Illinois from 1932 to 1940. |
The "white lines" from the upper-left to the lower-right show the old CB&Q right-of-way.
Satellite |
40:47 video @ 1:28 |
Andy Zukowski posted The CB&Q on the right heads towards the Illinois River in LaSalle, Illinois with the Mile Long Bridge in the Background (Illinois Central Railway). Frank Stokes: Was the CB&Q bridge a lift bridge and when was it torn down? The IC bridge looks different, was it rebuilt after this picture? Gary Sprandel: Frank Stokes it was converted to a standard lift from a scissor lift ( hinged arms that lifted the span vs towers)in 32. IIRC the main span on the IC bridge would be a bit behind the locomotive on the train so it might be between 32 and when the IC bridge was modified for the waterway project a few years later. From what I was able to dig up dismantling began in 80. Thomas Whitt shared |
Satellite |
Photo of May, 1943 flood by Dee Smania |
Cropped from photo of April, 1979 flood by Gene Smania |
The IV&N then crossed the Illinois River and went under the Illinois Central tracks.
The Illinois River bridge was built in 1890 without any movable spans. One of the spans was made movable in 1913-14 using the Strobel Direct Lift design. This span was replaced in 1932 by a typical cable operated vertical lift. BNSF still has a direct lift span, but designed by Strauss instead of Strobel. An oil-electric posting concerning that 1914 Northern Pacific bridge indicates BNSF is fixing the bridge even though the current navigability of the channel it crosses is questionable.
The above referenced collection by Ray Tutaj Jr. has more pictures of these bridges, including both types of lift spans and the dismantling in 1980.
When I followed the abandoned route of the IV&N, I noticed that it was very close to the rivers (Vermilion as well as Illinois), so it has a rather low grade through the valley. I wondered if it was prone to flooding. Pictures of the bridge during floods do indicate the railroad grade was precariously low. Because of the style of the lift span, we know the first flood was before 1932 and the second one was after 1932.
A picture from the Illinois Central bridge page has a picture of the IV&N lift bridge in the background.
Karl Rethwisch posted a picture of the piers of the bridge over the I&M Canal.
William Wozniak posted CB&Q Bridge Vertical Lift Design.....1913 LaSalle...IC bridge in background. David Hahn shared Dennis DeBruler This is just the third photo I have seen of this bridge. The Strobel direct-lift bridge design is so rare that I know of only one other bridge of this design: a BNSF/NP bridge in Washington. http://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/.../bnsfnorthern... Harold J. Krewer There were only three of these ever built in the U.S. and Chambers Bay is the only one left. LaSalle may have been the first. I understand there were more built in Europe, but no idea how many still exist. |
Photo from oil-electric |
The above referenced collection by Ray Tutaj Jr. has more pictures of these bridges, including both types of lift spans and the dismantling in 1980.
When I followed the abandoned route of the IV&N, I noticed that it was very close to the rivers (Vermilion as well as Illinois), so it has a rather low grade through the valley. I wondered if it was prone to flooding. Pictures of the bridge during floods do indicate the railroad grade was precariously low. Because of the style of the lift span, we know the first flood was before 1932 and the second one was after 1932.
Photo from GuitarJourney |
Photo from Ray's LaSalle County Online Museum (RLCOM) |
Photo from RLCOM |
William Wozniak posted ICG Solid Orange Northbound over the Illinois River coming into LaSalle.....1982... .Dave Woz photo [Another picture of the IC bridge that has a picture of the IV&N lift bridge in the background. But Bill's date of 1982 doesn't jibe with the 1980 date mentioned at the top of this post. Update: the comments indicate the bridge in the background is the Shippingsport Bridge (IL-351). The IV&N was already gone by 1982.] |
William Wozniak posted Rock Island....the END is only days away in this shot.....LaSalle IL...photo taken from standing on the ICG Bridge..1980..Dave Woz photo. |
William Wozniak posted [You can see the former IC bridge in the background. Correction: the comments indicate the background bridge was the old (truss) version of IL-351. So this picture captures two lost bridges.] |
William Wozniak posted All 3 Bridges across the Illinois River in LaSalle in 1941.(bridge hunter) Dennis DeBruler For those of us who don't yet know the Illinois River Bridges: "Shippingsport-foreground, CB&Q RR bridge next, ICRR bridge furthest", https://bridgehunter.com/il/lasalle/shippingsport/ I conclude we are looking upstream. Ken Hejl I believe the photographer was standing atop the Continental Grain silos. The place burned in the early 70's, I would guess. Ken Hejl Also note, the CB&Q bridge is in the down position. Must have been a train coming. Ken Hejl Karl M Andrews The little white shanty is on top of the CB&Q lift span. The top of the Q bridge runs along the bottom of the IC bridge. |
Digital zoom of above image |
Photo from Ray Tutaj Jr. website The beginning of the dismantling of the Illinois River bridge. |
Karl Rethwisch posted a picture of the piers of the bridge over the I&M Canal.
That was shipping sport the CAR bridge in the background......the bridge was demolished stacting June 19, 1980....my mom's birthday!
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DeleteWilliam Wozniak is correct. The picture showing the solid orange Illinois Central Gulf engine on the IC bridge has the Shippingsport bridge (Illinois highway 351) in the background. The CB&Q RR lift bridge was between the IC bridge and the IL-351 bridge. The CB&Q bridge had been removed by the date of the photo.
ReplyDeleteWilliam Wozniak is correct. The picture showing the solid orange Illinois Central Gulf engine on the IC bridge has the Shippingsport bridge (Illinois highway 351) in the background. The CB&Q RR lift bridge was between the IC bridge and the IL-351 bridge. The CB&Q bridge had been removed by the date of the photo.
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