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| Steven J. Brown posted Chesapeake and Ohio SW9 5247 (built 1951) switching cars onto C&O ferry City of Midland in Milwaukee, Wisconsin - August 8, 1977. Jeff Lewis Nice. I imagine that operation wasn't very well documented. How much of a network did C&O have in Milwaukee? I can't imagine it was very large. Ken Herrick It wasn't. All it did was serve the car ferry dock & the yard that supported it. If I remember correctly, both CNW & Milwaukee Road interchanged with the yard which was on Jones Island. Jonathon Leese GTW was in Muskegon, C&O in Ludington and AA was in Frankfort. Michael Moran The Lake Express currently runs between Milwaukee and Muskegon, but C&O ferries ran out of Ludington, where the Badger still does. I believe that all the railcar ferry docks on the Lake were standardized so in an emergency a ferry could use another dock, but I can’t confirm this and don’t know if it ever happened. Jonathon Leese Scott Malec C&O's primary route for the car ferry traffic was Toledo-Ludington on their mainline that basically bisected the state on a 45 degree angle. C&O's line to Muskegon was basically a branch line. |
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In a 1955 aerial photo, there was just one slip near the end of Jones' Island. But it had already been converted to a cargo terminal. The 2005 SPV Map shows that this area used to support C&O/PM ferries to Ludington and GTW ferries to Muskegon and Grand Haven, MI. You can still see tracks west of I-794 going to the sewage treatment plant in the upper-left corner.
Update: the SPV Map may be correct with respect to C&O/PM, but it is wrong for GTW. The following clearly shows a ferry docked at a slip in their yard. And there is another, shorter ferry slip next to it.
Some remnants of the two slips still exist.
Update: the SPV Map may be correct with respect to C&O/PM, but it is wrong for GTW. The following clearly shows a ferry docked at a slip in their yard. And there is another, shorter ferry slip next to it.
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| C&O Railway Pere Marquette District Page posted C&NW GP15-1 4418 is loading cars onto the C&O carferry "City of Midland 41" at Manitowoc, WI. Idler flats were used to keep the locomotive off the carferry apron. 6/14/1980. Many thanks to Joe Fishbein for sharing this photo with us of operations across the lake. Andrew Roth shared C&NW GP15-1 4418 is loading cars onto the C&O carferry "City of Midland 41" at Manitowoc, WI. Idler flats were used to keep the locomotive off the carferry apron. 6/14/1980. Many thanks to Joe Fishbein for sharing this photo with us of operations across the lake. Richard Dermody: Back in the 70's I watched a C&O ferry load in Milwaukee. Slowly rock to the port side, then the starboard side, then just lower when the center track was loaded. I'm not sure that the apron couldn't take the weight. But the concentration would definitely not be good for the operation. |
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| Tim Hansen posted The C&O Milwaukee Piggyback Terminal … I came across this while looking at some old Milwaukee harbor charts. The C&O for a number of years in the 1960’s and 1970’s had a piggyback facility at Milwaukee. As shown on the accompanying 1963 harbor chart, the Piggyback Terminal was located at the base of Jones Island north of East Lincoln Avenue, is shown on the 1963 and 1975 charts but is gone in the 1978 chart. I assume that the Terminal was built around 1960 when the C&O consolidated their Milwaukee operations at Jones Island and had a switch engine stationed there to service the rail yard and ferries and was abandoned sometime after 1975 when the C&O filed for abandonment of the car ferry services and before 1978 when it’s not shown on the charts. Does anyone know the history of this terminal or have pictures of what it looked like? Map Credit: Alpena County George N. Fletcher Public Library Andrew Roth shared |
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| One of four photos posted by Joe McCarron My collection. GTW. MIlwaukee, WI - 1940's |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Joe's photo above Your previous aerial showed that GTW had two ferry slips. Madison seems to be docked at the short slip and a long ferry is docked on the right. |
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| Joe McCarron posted My collection. GTW. MIlwaukee, Wi. Joe McCarron In Milwaukee, they called this engine 73, the "doodlebug". Both my Grandfather and Dad were engineers on it. I was on it once, when I was 7. Maybe this is Muskegon. Not sure. [Because of the building on the right and the walkway along the apron, I don't think this photo was in Muskegon; but this comment did bring this GTW dock to my attention.] |
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| Joe McCarron posted My collection. GTW. MIlwaukee, WI |
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| Joe McCarron posted My collection. GTW. MIlwaukee, WI - Not sure this is Milwaukee. Charles Geletzke Jr. Joe: Yes, that is Milwaukee. |
So very cool! Thank you for your research. I rode the ferry as a kid in the ‘70’s and it’s so great to see these pics and read about it!
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