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Thursday, June 30, 2022

1879+1908 (BNSF+Amtrak)/Santa Fe Raton Pass Tunnel

East Portal: (Satellite, just south of the NM-CO border)
West Portal: (Bridge Hunter; Satellite)


"Built 1879; second tunnel built 1908; original bore closed 1953." [BridgeHunter] It is the highest point on the Sante Fe at 7588' [UncoverColorado]

The Santa Fe and Denver & Rio Grande Western not only fought for the route through the Royal Gorge, they fought for this pass from Colorado to New Mexico. This was the Santa Fe's original route to California. But it has grades as high as 4% in Colorado. Santa Fe completed the 200+ mile Belen Cutoff in 1907, which has easier grades and is more direct. The now closed 1879 tunnel was 2,041' long. The 1908 bore was 2,787' with an approach grade of 0.158% instead of the 1.9% grade for the original bore. [american-rails] Since BNSF has moved its through freight operations to the cutoff, it doesn't want to maintain this route for passenger speeds. But, of course, Amtrak does want BNSF to maintain it. That is why I added the Amtrak label to these notes.

Bob Chaparro posted
Raton Tunnel
A post by David Dickinson on the Facebook Railroad Postcards group.
He comments:
Wording on the back of the post card: "Raton Tunnel, the highest point on the Santa Fe, has an altitude of 7,622 feet.  The tunnel is 15 miles beyond Trinidad.  The Santa Fe has recently completed a second tunnel considerably below the original tunnel." Notice the cattle drive happening on the right.  Published for Fred Harvey by the Detroit Publishing Company.
Built 1879; second tunnel built 1908; original bore closed 1953.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

East Portal:
Marty Bernard posted
Raton Tunnel East Portal, Cab View
ATSF's Raton tunnel through Raton Pass, east portal, taken from cab of F7 309L pulling Train #23, the 𝘎𝘳𝘒𝘯π˜₯ 𝘊𝘒𝘯𝘺𝘰𝘯 near Wooten, Colorado (Colorado State Line marker) on August 19, 1967. Roger Puta photograph
Erich Houchens: I worked the Raton Desk (DS18) for five years 2012 to 2017. Still kicking myself for not taking a Road Trip and riding the headend of A3 and A4 over the pass. Of course the FRA rule against using cameras/cell phones on the headend would have prevented me from getting the same picture.

West Portal:
Hinge of fate, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons

Back when the original bore was still being used.
1929 CarterMuseum, Public Domain

A very different colorization.
Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook posted
This postcard specifies an altitude of 7,622'.

american-rails
An A-B-B-A set of Santa Fe F3's have the "Super Chief" on Raton Pass in a publicity photo dated September 7, 1959. Roger Plummer photo.






Thursday, January 7, 2021

CSX/C&O Fort Springs Tunnel in Greenbrier County, WV

(Bridge Hunter; Satellite)

Marty Bernard posted three photos with the comment: "C&O 7602 Exits Fort Springs Tunnel
Roger Puta captured this sequence at Fort Springs Tunnel in Greenbrier County, West Virginia in October 1981. These really look good full screen."
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The tunnel is nothing special. C&O had a lot of them in West Virginia. In fact there are tunnels just a few hundred feet to the West and a few hundred feet to the East. But the Chessie Cat livery is worth saving an least once in this blog. 

Tuesday, August 11, 2020

1945 BNSF/SantaFe Bridge over the Colorado River at Topock, AZ

(Bridge Hunter; no Historic Bridges; Satellite)

US-66 was moved to this 1890 cantilevered bridge after this 1945 truss bridge was built.
safe_image for  Seaver Center Collection Image Display via Dennis DeBruler

I wonder if there was another bridge between the above bridge and the current 1945 bridge because the cantilever bridge look rather spindly for the Santa Fe locomotives for the early 20th Century. The RR Aban Map shows that there were two crossings of the Colorado River before this one. And that the current one was a realignment to remove the twists and turns of following the river's valley. My theory is that the route that is now in Toprock Bay was the original route and the above bridge was part of that route. Then they appeared to have built a dam that created Toprock Bay. As part of that project they built the second route that followed the river valley. So it appears there was an intermediate bridge. I have not been able to find any information on that bridge.
RR Aban Map

Street View

Marty Bernard posted

One of Roger Puta's More Spectacular Photos
A few days ago I posted a version of this photo of before the train got to the bridge. This one I just found is even better.
That's AT&SF 5150 westbound on the Colorado River Bridge at the Arizona/California border in January 1983. The closest town is Topock, AZ. In maybe 20 minutes the train will be in Needles, CA.

Marty Bernard shared


Cerita Sakura posted
The 3 SDP40Fs are now in California, having crossed the Colorado River from Topock, Arizona. The train is essentially ex-Santa Fe Super Chief and El Capitan cars, and it was during this winter of 1973-74 that ATSF disallowed Amtrak to use the Super Chief name any longer. This very late running No. 3 could actually have been the Southwest Limited on this December 5th, 1973.
Photo Credit to Steve Patterson.
Paulo Mestre shared
 
Craig Hensley Photography posted
Burlington Northern SD40-2 #6379 leads an all BN power set on an eastbound manifest with a long string
boxcars making up most of the train. Crossing the Colorado River Bridge November 1996, Rolf Stumpf Photo.
Dave Ori: Looks Like the former Train 866 that used to operate between Barstow and Waynoka , OK via the old Frisco Gateway.

Bridges Now and Then posted
"AT&SF freight and Bridge in January 1983 This is a westbound approaching the Colorado River bridge (and the Arizona/California border) at Topock, AZ." (Roger Puta Photograph)

Gret Stoney commented on the above post

Bob Squaredancer commented on the above post
Here comes another early morning westbound at Topock. Back in 1979 πŸ“· Greg Taggart
Henry Corrado: Bob Squaredancer Isn't he coming into California?
Wouldn't that make it Westbound? I'm only saying that because the Topock water tower is on the SE corner of this area.
Bob Squaredancer: Henry Corrado You may be right. The way the track curves beyond wouldn't match the CA side. Without remembering the details (sorry that's just how it's gotten) I was thinking the sun angle was late afternoon. Now looking more likely early morning. Again I just don't recall. Good catch.

Marty Bernard posted eight photos with the comment:
8 Photos of 4 Trains at the California and Arizona Border
Roger Puta took these in January 1983 at the AT&SF Colorado River Bridge.  The River is the Arizona/California border.  He was on a hill in California where he could look at the bridge and across to Arizona and shoot westbounds ore he could turn around looking toward Needles, CA and shoot eastbounds.  This sequence has one eastbound and three westbounds.  Captions with Photos.
Please enjoy Roger's photography.
Marty Bernard shared
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1. and 2. AT&SF SD40-2 5150 westbound with mainly TOFC.
Jason Eminian: This is an extremely rare situation. JB Hunt did not start shipping on the ATSF until 1990. Must have been a private move.
Sammy Carlile: I noticed the older J B Hunt trailers as well. Definitely a rare move. And the train is a hot one with the UPS vans back there. It also shows how bad the slot use used to be on those flat cars. Look at all that wasted space. They definitely made some huge improvements with efficiency over time.

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1. and 2. AT&SF SD40-2 5150 westbound with mainly TOFC.

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3. and 4. AT&SF SD45u 5433 westbound with more pigs.
Sammy Carlile: A whole train of 10 Packs! A railfans and accountants dream and a hoggers nightmare! LOL [A nightmare because of the lack of slack action?]
Sean Graham-White: And a caboose!

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3. and 4. AT&SF SD45u 5433 westbound with more pigs.

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5. and 6. AT&SF C30-7 8133 eastbound with a merchandise freight train.

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5. and 6. AT&SF C30-7 8133 eastbound with a merchandise freight train.

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7. and 8. AT&SF C30-7 8132 westbound also with a merchandise freight train.
Too bad the two GEs didn't meet on the bridge.

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7. and 8. AT&SF C30-7 8132 westbound also with a merchandise freight train.
Too bad the two GEs didn't meet on the bridge.

Jan Olejnik posted
On the Arizona side of the Topock bridge. Crossing the Colorado River a few miles East of Needles CA.
Cody Goodman I bet that bridge sees dozens of trains per day.
Jan OlejnikAuthor Cody Goodman On good days well over 100.

It is so nice when a road bridge is next to a railroad bridge.

Street View


Street View

Street View

Micheal Hoskins posted five photos with the comment: "All of my shots of the Santa Fe bridge in Needles Ca./AZ as it crosses the Colorado river. In the first shot you can see the Sante Fe logo to the far left #kingofthezoomshots"
Jan Olejnik: Topock, not Needles.
Micheal Hoskins: Jan Olejnik I always do that because in the last shot the Needles are in the background.
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Sunday, September 16, 2018

Amtrak/Pennsy Passenger (Coach) Yard

(Satellite, it has been rebuilt as Amtrak's yard)

My photos of this yard

Notes of other railroad resources nearby are:

Bill Molony posted
Gulf, Mobile & Ohio train #2, The Abraham Lincoln, easing past the Pennsylvania Railroad's coach yard as it approaches Chicago Union Station - circa 1963.
An E7A-F3A-E7A combination powered the all-lightweight, 16-car consist on that day.
On the left is the PRR's all-private room Broadway Limited, waiting for its 5:00 PM overnight run to New York City.
Roger Dean Elliott 103-A on point.
[The photo is old enough that the B&OCT bridge is in the down position.]

A Roger Puta photo posted by Marty Bernard
The consensus of the comments is that this photo was taken from Roosevelt Road bridge.

Bill Molony posted
Gulf, Mobile & Ohio E7A #100 and E8Am #100-A, arriving at Chicago Union Station with a northbound passenger train - 1967.
Bill Molony posted
Gulf, Mobile & Ohio EMD E7A #100, leading a GM&O passenger train past the PRR's passenger train service tracks in Chicago - 1967.
Bill Molony also posted to the GM&O group and got more comments
Craig Willett With the equipment for the Broadway Limited in the background featuring an SP Pullman!

Glen Miller posted
Chicago 1972 (Sears and Aon Under Construction). The tallest and (then) second tallest buildings in Chicago. Originally the Standard Oil Building and later the Amoco Building, the Aon Center – at 83 floors – is now Chicago’s fourth tallest building. Originally clad in thin slabs of gleaming white Carrara marble that eventually buckled and cracked, the building was re-clad in granite in the early 1990s.
Architecture firm Solomon Cordwell Buenz (SCB) has proposed an all glass elevator shaft to rise up the exterior of the northwest corner of the Aon Centre. A pair of double-deck panoramic elevators will increase elevator capacity to the building while providing unobstructed views for riders. At a speed of approximately 5.7m (19ft) per second, visitors are expected to scale to the top of the skyscraper in just under 60 seconds
Paul Webb shared
Dennis DeBruler shared
This must have been taken from the B&OCT viadcut looking North. It is before Amtrak so we see intercity cars in the BN/CB&Q yard on the left and in the PC/Pennsy yard on the right. Of course, the BN yard is now BNSF, and the PC yard is now Amtrak. The viaduct in the background would be Roosevelt Road.

While looking for a more formal yard name, I came across the following interesting tidbit of passenger coach service in Chicago.

Public Health Reports

John Morris posted
This photo taken from the south side of the Roosevelt Road bridge captures a PennCentral mail and express train backing in at the end of its run. Although the merger has already taken place, this train is still very much a Pennsylvania Railroad style of operation of prior years. The red and white PC logo shown here was short lived and became all white. For me, the PennCentral was an unloved railroad and I prefer to focus my memories on the standalone New York Central, New Haven, and Pennsylvania Railroad years. In just two years the company was bankrupt - an era for everything in this photo was coming to a rapid close.
Gary Klockenga Southern and N&W head end cars in the background.
Dwayne Weber Most of the boxcars appear to be REA.
[Some comments about the what caused the PC bankruptcy. Someone commented that the Pennsy didn't back in at Union Station. John corrected him by explaining that this train is backing headend cars into the a yard so that switchers can deliver the LCL cars to the freight house, REA cars to REA [support buildings], RPO to the post office, etc. But the incorrect comment was deleted so I can't quote John's reply.]

One of six Rick Burn photos posted by Marty Bernard. Pennsy's yard is in the left background, CB&Q's commuter storage is on the right.

Wayne O'Shell commented on Joe's share
Chicago....from high above the city.........
[After the Pennsy yard has been rebuilt for Amtrak service.]

Bill Molony posted
Pennsylvania Railroad class S2 6-8-6 steam turbine #6200 arriving in Chicago with the Manhattan Limited on the afternoon of June 13, 1947.

William A. Shaffer posted

William A. Shbaffer posted
Chicago Yard (1978)
(Photo by William A. Shaffer)
Jack Roberson You were level with the elevated steam pipes from the power plant. Maybe an air supply line also. Thanks for posting.
Dennis DeBruler The B&OCT Bridge was still down.

Mark Hinsdale shared four photos with the comment:
December, 1998
Some views of Amtrak's Chicago Maintenance Facility as seen from the 18th Street Bridge in late December, 1998. Some of those very same suspects (in different dress) can still be seen hanging out here in 2017...
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Mark Hinsdale posted two photos with the comment:
"Then & Now... The View From 18th Street"
Nothing is as constant as change.  Here are two images taken from Chicago's 18th Street Bridge, illustrating the Amtrak servicing facilities as they appeared in June, 1977, and again, 43 years later, on September 11, 2020.  There have been numerous track layout  modifications, new service and wash buildings built, and a whole host of other changes to the northward view here in the four and a half decades separating these views, not to mention the many additions and subtractions to Chicago's dynamic skyline.  I did my best to try and line up two images that were taken from as similar a vantage point as I could find in my files, using the Sears Tower on the left and the Continental Paper Grading Company (recently closed) on the right, as my guideposts. Hopefully it offers an interesting perspective from which to review and compare the two.  In the 1977 image  Illinois Central Gulf's ex Gulf, Mobile & Ohio outbound "Plug" to Joliet is passing the former Pennsylvania Railroad service facility, brimming with a variety of motive power common to the era.  Image 2 shows Amtrak Train #352 for Detroit and Pontiac, following the closest alignment to the first photo I could come up with.  June, 1977 and September, 2020 photos by Mark Hinsdale.
Walter E Pfefferle: What happened to the other tall buildings did they get tore down?
Mark Hinsdale: Walter E Pfefferle, mostly additions, not many subtractions. The brick and concrete building in the center of the 1977 view was PRR’s engine house, which still stands, if you look closely in the 2020 image it has been added on to and has been changed in appearance but still serves today. Most everything else that you see today has been erected since the 77 view.
Richard Koenig: Wow, fabulous capture of history here, really great: the Plug with its F3, the Amtrak SW1, an E, SDP40Fs, and a P30CH. And then all the buildings in the background, wonderful.
Rick La Fever: Look at difference in the atmosphere? 1977 Smoggy? 2020 Almost Clear?
Mark Hinsdale shared
Mark Hinsdale shared
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Nick Ulivieri Photography posted
Photogenic storms have been far and few between this year, but on Saturday, I went out to the 18th Street bridge in hopes of catching a shelf cloud - if the storm produced one. The radar looked pretty good, but you never really know what the storm front will look like until it arrives. And if you're not already in position to photograph a shelf, by the time you see one, it's probably too late to get out and snag a good photo.
Thankfully, the storm produced some decent structure - just as a BNSF train was rolling by - and I was able to capture the scene and scurry back to the car before the downpour started.
J.B. Rail Photog shared
[And the St. Charles Air Line is still out of service west of where CN/IC branches off. I've read that the this bridge is OK, but they are replacing an overpass east of it.]

One of the photos posted by Coal & Steel Railroad Photography

Thomas Manz posted
[Taken from the top of a tower of the South Branch Bridge.]

Timothy Leppert commented on a post
Union Station in Chicago had many sub-basements for systems. One Huge room had extremely old AC and DC switching for Electrical Power (see photo). But the coolest thing was 2 Mounted Steam engines (not Locomotives) that used steam from Edison's Power House (still standing) and turned DC generators for Depot Lights. PLUS, it powered a cooling system where cool air from the underground railroad (Blues Brothers) was pumped into the great hall for cooling. The City collected a fee for this.
William A. Shaffer posted
A Plethora of Equipment - Chicago Yard (November, 1978)
(Photo by William A. Shaffer)
[Note the housing projects in the background.]

Robert Learmont posted
The old and new, sharing the house on 9 and 10 track at Amtrak's 16th Street Diesel Shop. 10-track is normally dedicated to the newer Siemens Charger locomotives and the small team of Machinists, Electrcians, and Pipefitter that are dedicated to maintaining them. It also has a specially rigged drop table for changing wheel sets on the Charger locomotives, which are very dissimilar underneath to the ubiquitous P42s, since they have separate motors and wheelsets rather than traction motor combos. Chicago, IL 2-24-2021.
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Track Nightmare shows more photos of the complex track work that is between Roosevelt and Polk.

Waldolf Urinse shared seven of the more interesting photos that he added March 3, 2018. The Flickr Album of the Amtrak Yard to which he added those photos.

Front-End Friday

Tom Rutkowski posted 26 photos from inside the yard.

Bruce Blackadar posted a few 1974 photos north and south of Roosevelt Road. Taylor Street still existed and the B&OCT Bridge is down.