Monday, July 31, 2017

NS/NKP and Aban/Erie+C&O Bridge over Grand Calumet River

(no Bridge Hunter?, Satellite)

Pete Fileca posted
Late 70s
Dennis DeBruler Looking at a 1967 aerial, which has decent resolution, you are looking North. But what were you standing on? They did not have drones back then.
Bob Lalich The photographer was likely on the EB home signal for Hohman Ave.
It is hard to believe that at one time, a long time ago, this river was navigable.
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Josh Lemier posted
Here in this epic photo Tom Golden got this shot on top of the Grand Calumet River Bridge with an Erie Lackawanna Westbound passing underneath in 1976.
Collection Of Sam Beck.
Mark Bilecki Sr. The Erie, Nickel Plate bridge was replaced with a culvert bridge by NW around 1983.
Mark Bilecki Sr. There was a control shack up there that was considered a tower.
Bob Lalich The operator on the bridge controlled the interlocking that allowed the railroads to jointly use the bridge and swap positions. West of the bridge, the EL was north of the NKP. East of the bridge, the NKP was north of the EL. Going way back, the operator also controlled the opening of the bridge. This portion of the Grand Calumet was navigable in the late 1800s/early 1900s.
Joseph Tuch Santucci This bridge continues to be used regularly as NS schedules numerous trains on the former NKP daily.

Update:
Ira Silverman posted
Can anyone identify this location? "I believe" it is in Hammond IN and that's the Amtrak Floridian coming at you.
William Vandervoort Couldn't have been the Floridian, at the time the only semaphore on the Monon in Hammond was the northbound home signal at State Line. Maybe this is the James Whitcomb Riley or Cardinal, which used the Erie through Hammond connecting with the C&O.
William Vandervoort Erie/EL called it CA Tower. The bridge was shared with Nickel Plate, those railroads traded places there. On April Fools Day 1976, Conrail was formed and they basically abandoned the EL line. C&O didn't want responsibility, having had trackage rights, and started rerouting the freight trains via B&O to Wellsboro, then the former Pere Marquette La Crosse Subdivision to join the C&O at La Crosse. For about a month the James Whitcomb Riley was bussed between Chicago and Peru IN, until arrangements were made to use the former Erie. In 1977, the train began using the Wellsboro routing and was also renamed the Cardinal.
William Vandervoort Wellsboro to La Crosse was not signaled. Though as I recall it had welded rail in decent shape. Here is a train order from one of my trips on the Cardinal, authorizing Amtrak to run "extra". What seemed strange was the angle at which we crossed the PRR main line at Hanna, and the fact that the crossing over paralleling US 30 had no gates, just flashers and bells. The westbound Cardinal was actually traveling slightly northeast at that point. Theoretically a straight line north from La Crosse to the B&O to would have been the Monon Michigan City Branch, which crossed the B&O at Alida. Wellsboro is 7 miles east of Alida, a 7 mile displacement which needed to be compensated over the La Crosse Subdivision.
Jon Roma I've read that, in the rush of getting Conrail underway, someone had forgotten about the joint Erie-C&O trackage, and the shutdown of that route had to be corrected after the fact.
Jon Roma commented on Ira's posting
Since many people are having a hard time visualizing the location of Ira Silverman's picture, I've taken a scanned page from the 1915 Sanborn fire insurance atlas and overlaid it with blue bullets that show the three pertinent interlocking towers. (Erie's "HY" Tower is out of frame and hence is not shown.)

The approximate angle the photographer was facing is depicted with a red arrow.

Josh Lemier posted
Here in this new cover photo we see two Erie Lackawanna Manifest Freights passing at Hammond, Indiana crossing the Calumet River Bridge. Date Unknown.
Photo Credit To Mike Raia.
Michael Mireles HD tower sits above....
Bob Lalich The EB likely originated at either 51st St Yard or Clearing on the BRC.
[A swing bridge that hadn't swung for years.]
Michael Dye posted
NKP 763, at 'ED' drawbridge. Hammond, FEB57.
[Monon's bridge is on the left.]
Michael Dye posted
RR East view of 'ED' drawbridge, Grand Calumet River. Hammond, FEB57.
[Monon's bridge is in the background.]

Michael Dye posted
A photo, looking North, taken from a floodlight tower in the Erie's Hammond yard, in JUN 1957. The single Monon track to the left with the Erie's main and yard leads to the right. I believe that is Douglas Street in the foreground. [Actually, it is Clinton Street back when it still went across the tracks.]
Nice view of the layout of the Monon and Erie/NKP Calumet bridges, in the far background.
Photo taken by my late Grandfather, C.L. Coates, Signal Gang foreman, Erie Signal Gang 33.

C&E: Milwaukee's Chicago and Evanston

The beginnings of the Chicago & Evanston as a route built by the Milwaukee Road to compete with the C&NW in the north suburban commuter market is described by David Daruszka's ChicagoRails blog. John Evans, one of the founders of Northwestern University, help charter the C&E in 1861 and service began May 1, 1885. The line reached Wilmette in 1889. [TrainWeb] At the beginning of the 20th Century, C&E allowed, even helped, the "L" take over the passenger service and, later, freight service north of Wilson. Richard Mead's posting describes the passenger service, and David provided photos of several of the depots as comments. Probably the main claim to fame of Milwaukee's C&E route is that it was the railroad that went past Wrigley Field.

I begin with an overview of how it fit into the Milwaukee Road. Note the Chicago & Pacific came from Tower A-5. crossed the C&NW northern branches at CY Tower (Clyborn Junction) and joined the C&E to go south to Union Station. This was the freight access to the C&E because Milwaukee's Galewood and Bensenville yards are west of Tower A-5. Passenger access to the C&E was from Union Station using a bridge that no longer exists to cross the Chicago River just north of Kinzie Street.
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I'm dividing the discussion of the C&E into segments. From north to south:
This is what was left of the C&E when the Chicago Terminal Railroad assumed operations on 2/2/2007. The crossing at CY Tower had already been removed in 2000. Canadian Pacific must have been interchanging freight cars in C&NW's North Avenue Yard.
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The northern segment had Peerless' business for less than a year. I have yet to determine what business was on the southern branch and when they abandoned it.
Satellite
When I started rail (track) fanning in 2014, the lumber yard on Cherry Avenue on Goose Island was still receiving cars. In fact, they were left parked on Cherry Ave. So this was the status of CTR in 2014.
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David Daruszka commented on a share
There was still a lot of industry along the line in 1973.
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2019, a rewrite is in progress

Resources for the C&E: maps1,  Chicago Reader (the article is interesting, but read it and close it because the advertisements can hang your browser) ("Inconvenience to the sweat set occurs, at most, one or two days a week, whenever the Peerless Candy Company receives a shipment of sugar syrup. Peerless, on Lakewood between Schubert and Diversey"), Chicago Switching overview.





(Update: the lumbar yard closed and the scrap yard is being kicked out as part of the gentrification of the industrial area north of Goose Island. Since the Chicago Terminal Railroad has no customers, the City of Chicago is taking control of the right-of-way in anticipation of a new public transit route. One problem is that the Cherry Avenue Bridge is not big enough for both pedestrians and busses or rail cars. The train ran so infrequently that sharing the bridge with pedestrians was not an issue. Hopefully, rapid transit would cross the bridge frequently.)



Bucky Buchholtz posted
Milwaukee Road C&E North Line switcher at C&E Junction on Kingsbury- the crew is trying to get the switch points to throw all the way back, a frequent problem at this location with the scrap yard right there. July, 1986.

Will G Benson posted 11 photos with the comment: "A late Throwback Thursday as I set the Wayback to... June 24th, 2014.
A detailed look at one of Chicago Terminals runs on the final miles of the Chicago and Evanston Railway in one of the final years of the C&E lines operation."
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Me and my friend had gotten word that CTM would be doing a big transformer move out of the Finkl steel mill, as the plant was preparing for shutdown and movement to the south side. In this first image, CTM 900 crosses over the swing bridge in the neighborhood of Ranch Triangle.

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To our surprise, the transformer move didn't take place. Instead we were treated with the usual operations that were happening at the time. The local goes across the same bridge but with three gondolas loaded with scrap metal from a local junkyard.

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With the scrap gons back at North Avenue Yard, the crew could now complete the task of swapping an empty centerbeam with a loaded one at Big Bay Lumber. Here, the short train is crossing North Avenue as it approaches the bridge to Goose Island.

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The flagman is hard at work protecting the Division Street intersection. The load was left back north in a siding.

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Intersection crossing success!

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They have made it to their destination and have coupled to the empty. Now they shall return to the siding to grab that load.

This is my favorite image out of this set. With big skyscrapers looming in the distance over a small SW8, you really get to see what terminal rail operations in a big city are like.

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The small journey north begins.

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The load is being spotted on the main for easy unloading.

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Apparently, a bus route goes right down Cherry Avenue.

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We got a friendly wave from one of the crew members as they get a move on from Big Bay.

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And with the train rolling over the swing bridge we started with, their duties are almost at an end. Little did we know that this operation altogether was also nearing an end. in 2015, Big bay Lumber, the final customer on the line, would go out of Business. For the first time since the Chicago and Evanston was opened in 1885, the tracks of northern Chicago's urban sprawl lay dormant..


David H. Nelson posted
If anyone is interested in Rail simulators, I;m still working on my Milwaukee Road in Chicago project (Goose Island, ca. 1947).
I was in my editor earlier and I thought this image might be worth posting. Everything shown except the track is created by myself.
The "camera" is positioned at 450 W Chicago Ave, looking south. The faint yellow lines are a visual aid above the track.
The scope of the project is centered at C&E Junction, W Cortland at Kingsbury, and runs NW to W. Belmont and SE past Union Station to the big PRR warehouse near Roosevelt Rd. IIRC this is about 4.25 miles.
Rail simulator projects do not need to compress distance and that's the case here... everything is indeed 12 inches to the foot.
David commented on his post
Dennis DeBruler commented on David's comment
I knew that Milwaukee had a yard on Goose Island, but this image makes it more real than just a 1938 aerial photo. And it reminds me that there was a gasometer near the south side of Goose Island in addition to some that were north of the island.

I checked, the Ogden Viaduct over Goose Island and Milwaukee's mainline was not removed until 1993. So it should be in this model as well. https://forgottenchicago.com/.../the-extension-and.../

David H. Nelson posted
One more screenshot from the simulator project I'm working on (The Milwaukee Road's Division Street Yard on Goose Island). This is an aerial panorama.
FB has done a huge reduction in size. If you want to see it a bit larger you need to click on the image and then right mouse click.select view image, and then click on the image once more to enlarge.
Enjoy.
David H. Nelson Here is a link to half size image: http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php...
Eric Quick OpenRails?
David H. Nelson Of course.
OR is the only sim that does reasonably realistic physics. Easier to do both freeware and open source projects too.
I'll be uploaded Goose Island as a very incomplete freeware "alpha" soon (elvastower).
I own elvastower.com; I'll be posting a link for a freeware download of this route within the month. It's very incomplete but it can still be fun if you are into industrial switching.






B&LE 1918 Silicon Steel Bridge over Allegheny River at Acmetonia, PA


HAER PA,2-OAK.V,1--10 from pa3714

Oblique view of cantilever truss over main channel, looking NNE from south abutment. - Bessemer & Lake Erie Railroad, Allegheny River Bridge, Spanning Allegheny River, East of Pennsylvania Turnpike (I-76), Oakmont, Allegheny County, PA

The bridge was designed by two U.S. Steel subsidiaries - the railroad and the American Bridge Company - as a showpiece for their parent company. This structure not only introduced new silicon steel to American bridge construction, but also helped revive continuous truss design. [pa3714]
 I included the label "metalIron" because this was evidently the first bridge built with silicon steel, which was stronger than existing steel. It is also a pioneering bridge because it used continuous spans rather than simple spans that were cantilevered and generated an upward force on some of the piers, especially during construction. This double track bridge replaced a single track bridge. The old bridge had a steel trestle for the north approach. That trestle was buried in an embankment when this bridge was built. Furthermore a "felling trestle" was built parallel to the existing trestle so that dump trains would not interfere with the normal ore trains. "Engineering News remarked, 'It is not often in any part ofthe country that a perfectly serviceable steel viaduct is treated in this way;... [Here] two such viaducts, side by side, are being buried.' The embankment, however, allowed U.S. Steel to dispose of 1.2 million cubic yards of slag from its mills, which may have outweighed the scrap value of the steel trestles." "With the trusses continuous across two piers, train loads are distributed among the three spans, requiring less material than an equivalent series of simple spans....The bridge was clearly intended as a showpiece for U.S. Steel" [pa3714data]

Note that the piers of the old bridge were extended using cut-stone even though reinforced concrete was becoming a more common construction material by 1918.

3D Satellite
Both a Flickr photo and a Facebook photo show iron ore trains on the bridge in the 21st Century. It is nice to know that there is at least one blast furnace still working somewhere in the Pittsburgh area. It looks like the old Homestead Works may be gone, but there are two blast furnaces still standing near Braddock, PA

Sunday, July 30, 2017

Crossing of EJ&E Industrial Spur and CNS&M

(Satellite)

The Chicago, North Shore & Milwauky is an interurban that was abandoned along time ago. Its right-of-way appears to now be Commonwealth Avenue. Part of the industrial spur appears to now be Morrow Avenue. The main crossing of the EJ&E and CNS&M is a block north and was grade separated.

Kevin Piper posted two photos with the comment:
The EJ&E crossed the North Shore's Milwaukee line at North Chicago. Here SW1200 306 is running across the diamonds in December 1961. Note the gates protecting the junction. The second photo shows the exact location in recent years. Top, LOUIS CERNY PHOTO Bottom, JOE STUPAR PHOTO
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[You can see the EJ&E overpass in the background.]

Luminant Liberty Mine

(Satellite)  A church was willing to be bought and move.

If you Google this mine, you learn about a neighbor who thinks he was not offered enough for his property. I'm going to ignore that issue and concentrate on the fact that this mine has two active dragline cranes.

Screenshot from a video from a Bill Drotar Jr. posting
Have to enjoy D33 while it's so close to the road.
William Oldani Now that's a Different style Bucket! I'm not familiar with that one I'm assuming it's some type of Easy Loading or High Efficiency!
Jay Wilson Almost looks like someone tried to gain a few extra yards by changing the back wall.
Bob Haare No spreader bar on the hoist chains!
Luminant PR video of moving D32 8 miles to their new lignite coal mine 



UP/WP Bridge over North Fork Feather River near Pulga, CA

(Bridge Hunter, Satellite)

Western Pacific built this route up the Feather River Canyon.

Greg Mross posted
UP 3392 brings a train thru Pulga, CA in the Feather River Canyon in May of 1994.
This is one of the "seven wonders of the Feather River" shown in this video.

A Flickr photo capturing a high river flow.

I traced the river. This is part of the watershed for the Oroville Dam.



Saturday, July 29, 2017

EIR/NRG/N&W/NKP(Cloverleaf) Bridge over Embarras River near Oakland, IL

(Bridge Hunter, Satellite)

Dave Honan
\The Eastern Illinois Railroad crosses the Embarras River southwest of Oakland on this impressive bridge, viewed here from the south side of the east abutment. The bridge is located at MP 307.0 of the old Clover Leaf (later Nickel Plate) line between Toledo and St. Louis. Two more spans are hidden beyond the tall tree at left. (July 11, 2004)

Aban/Pennsy/Vandalia/Terre Haute & Peoria Bridge over Embarras River near Oakland, IL

(Bridge Hunter, no Bridge Hunter, Satellite, Street View)

Dave Honan posted two photos with the comment:
These two photos depict the main spans of the old Pennsy bridge spanning the Embarras River just west of Oakland. The Pennsy line [Terre Haute & Peoria] connected Paris and Decatur with the "Vandalia" mainline at Farrington. Today, the bridge is rusting away alongside IL-133. (July 11, 2004)

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Parking Cranes in Weather Vane Mode

One of the local construction sites set up this self erecting tower when they had easy access to the center of the building.

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It is electrically powered and controlled by remote control. So you are renting just a trailer, not a truck, diesel engines, and a cab.
The above photo after it was cropped
Each day the boom would be facing a different direction, so that allows me to get several different angles of the base from the one area where they have not yet built a wall so that construction equipment can drive into the building area.
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This video records the rotation speed. It was getting close to quitting time and they just rotated it over 360 degrees with no load.
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The next day was the first time I saw them actually use the crane. Here they are adding posts to the edge of the east wall. Earlier, when they were working on the north wall and I first took pictures of them, they came over and talked to me because I had a camera. I find this common and to my benefit because it gives me a chance to ask questions. The crane was installed mainly to lift the wood panel walls when they get that far into construction. It can lift four tons by the tower and one ton at the tip of the boom. Those posts were certainly less than a ton! I'm glad you can't recognize the faces because inside the fence is supposed to be a hard-hat zone. When I mentioned that every time my wife or I go to the library, we noticed the boom was pointed in a different direction. We thought that was because they had done some work that day and we missed it. He explained it could be because they park it in "weather vane" mode. That is, the boom turns rather than create a lateral force on the tower if there is a crosswind. He said the wires going up the tower will tolerate three revolutions. I confirmed that the reason the turned it at the end of the previous day with no load was to remove the twist from the wires so that it could do a full three revolutions in either direction while it was unattended.




Shawnetta Compton posted
The old girl has been turned. Boom is now facing west.
Steve Postin I thought it was parked facing west.
Shawnetta Compton A wicked storm turned her facing north several years ago. Before my time at wild boar.
Zachary Postin It was but they say tornado or high winds moved it north and apparently they moved it back where its facing west again. I'm going to check it out here in a bit I was just out there 2 weeks ago and it was facing north

[Quite a few comments concern if and who will rebuild it using modern AC equipment.]
Satellite
In a satellite image, the boom is facing north. You can see the shadow of the cables from the tip of the boom back to were the bucket is still west of the house.


While it was facing north, people could get good side views of it from the road: 1, 2, 3. Casey's Flickr photo has some informative comments.

Murph Dogg made a Lego model of it and provided the comments near the end of his web page:
This is the Squaw Creek 1360w, currently parked at the newly opened Wild Boar Mine near Lynnville, Indiana. The machine has been parked for about 10 years and was completely stripped and gutted by vandals and copper thieves. The machine made news in the mining machine enthusiast circuit this past year when it's idled boom swung about 30-40 degrees in high winds. The machine may see future work again at Wild Boar if the economy improves.

A Facebook photo when it was still working at Squaw Creek Mine. (Choose "Not Now" if you are not a member of Facebook.) I found the source of the Facebook photo.

Carl King posted four photos after it was facing West again with the comment: "Driving around on Sunday and thought these were pretty good pictures of the old Squaw Creek 1360."

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They don't seem to be moving the dirt very far in this video. (new window) This must be the other 1360W that was built and shipped to Alberta.