Sunday, November 26, 2017

MoW: Jordan Spreader

John Wilkosz posted, cropped
Jordan Spreader 1960's file photo from the Jackson Jordan Ludington, Mi plant.doing some ditching work. I believe this is someplace in Illinois. Photo is stamped Chicago, IL on back

Here's a little history on the Jordan Spreader. The spreader was the creation of Oswald F. Jordan, a Canadian road master who worked in the Niagara, Ontario area on the Canada Southern Railway, later a subsidiary of the New York Central Railroad. He designed the Jordan spreader as a multi-purpose MoW vehicle with adjustable blades and plough to allow improved conformation to the railbed. He supervised a crew at the St. Thomas Canada Southern shop in the early 1890s. He formed his own company, O.F. Jordan Company, in 1898 and continued construction of Jordan Spreaders. Walter Riley was appointed manager following Jordan's death in 1910 and directed the company for 50 years and the construction of 1,400 spreaders. Jordan spreaders are available by special order from Harsco Rail.

Jordan Spreaders are primarily used for ditching and vegetation control along the tracks, and during the winter months they can be used to plow snow. The two sets of wing plows along each side can be extended from the carbody to push snow, dirt, and gravel far off the right of way. When plowing snow, as long as it is not above the side plow's height, it can be a very effective snow removal machine. Anything higher than that usually requires a rotary snow plow. You can find spreaders at many division point yards along the Northern Transcon where they are used to clear rock slides and washouts during the warm months and snow drifts during the winter, but they can be found anywhere on the system working.
[Ramon Rhodes
If you want to dig deeper, TrainWeb has a page of links of info on the Jordan spreader.

Richard Luis Kitterman posted
1/14/2018: In 1890, Canada Southern Railway roadmaster O.F. Jordan filed a patent for a ballast spreader, and by the turn of the century Jordan spreaders had entered mass production, becoming common maintenance-of-way equipment in North America. A Cheseapeake and Ohio Railway (C&O) spreader is displayed at the B&O Railroad Museum in Baltimore, Maryland.

Joe Dockrill posted
From Railroad Maintenance of Way group
Outstanding photo
Paul Strubeck Early 1930s.
Mo Rensing That is a great tool. Can do a lot of damage though.
Paul Jones Cant tell, what road?
Paul Strubeck PRR
Mike Western Better have both wings down when digging that deep with that beast ..
Sam L'Huillier Ditched a few times with a Jordan but plowed/spread snow lots
[They didn't have to worry about hitting fiber optic cables back then.]

Joe Dockrill posted, cropped
ready to rock
RJMcKay commented on Ramon's posting
What happens when you hit an old signal foundation hidden in the weeds, lol
The current state of the art spreader.
Wired from Facebook
Essentially all spreaders on railroads are older plows that have been rebuilt if necessary. This new plow, built by Jordan plow successor Harsco enjoys better and new technology and a substantially heavier weight on the trucks (80 tons).
Mark Gillings BNSF has purchased a few of these and may have one or two more coming.
Michael Backhmann posted two photos of a spreader cleaning vegetation out of a drainage ditch. It appears the locomotive pulls, instead of pushes, the spreader. The comment is :
In my archives I found these. Gerry Haggerty was the main operator on this machine. If I am not mistaken, the serial plate on the spreader was dated 1906. Last time I saw it was at Railway Industrial a couple year back collecting rust.
Michael Bachmann All air operated and a pot belly stove for heat and the cold air wisped right though it.
Gregg Wolfersheim It's still at RIS end of track near Oakland Ave.


Bill Molony posted
John Govednik I'm a but clueless on the MOW tools and a lot of other RR details. 
What did the ditcher do? Dress the ballast along the track?

Dennis DeBruler
Matthew Linhart I was going to say that too,its a Jordan spreader. Ditcher???
Dennis DeBruler Jordan was a brand name. One of the summer jobs was cleaning out drainage ditches along side the track:
Dennis DeBruler I learned today that another "summer job" is grooming rip rap when a track is close to a river shore:
Michael Bachmann We called it the Jordan Spreader. I operated it a couple of times, the last time was in the winter of 1978 on the River Line, broke the wing and parked it at Caton Farm and tried to use the 666 to break through, got that stuck. We finally got out and had to help the train behind us. Cold day, wind chill about -60. Our engineer was from behind the iron curtain, don't remember his name.
David Gevaudan Sounds like a reel successful day. There was one on the Union RR used to plow the slag dumps and heavy snow.
Joe Kveton posted
We usually had 2 units.
Sam L'Huillier operated Jordan spreader snow plow for 30 + yrs in the UP of Michigan. had the hi v plow for snow on itFrank Irvine Where are / is the operator(s) ?Sam L'Huillier 1 each side in cab by window 4 hand levers for wing, 3 foot valves for boom locks nose flange/ plow forward leaver right side 3 rd man usually on air Jordan's ,, hyd ones almost same lay out .Sam L'Huillier last 1 i worked on had engineer in center with controls for power pushing , did not need radio , he was with us.
Keith Curtis posted three photos with the comment: "Rowesburg Wv."


Jerry Jackson posted
ATSF 199258. A Jordan Spreader, Fort Madison, IA 1986. It looks like the ghost of a 1980's crew member under the road number.

Joe Dockrill commented on Joe's posting
[Snow Plows has a photo of this same unit clearing snow.]
Jim Reider posted
Somebody is gonna get plowed! Sioux City yard yesterday
Hoosier Valley Museum
This postcard entitled "A WONDERFULL TIME SAVER IN TRACK BUILDING" was mailed on July 31, 1912 from Bremen, Indiana to Garrett, Indiana. The message reads, "Hello Kiddo. I am still in Bremen. I guess I will be here the rest of the week. We had our pictures taken, can you see me? I just had a squirrel dinner, don't I look fat? We are living pretty high. You can look for me Sat. night - Be a good girl. Love and Kisses, Jess." The card is addressed to Mrs. J. B. Bitwall. Jess must have worked for the B&O on the crew of the Jordan spreader and Mrs. Bitwall must have been his wife. The postcard is from the Russell Dove collection.
Robert Callahan posted
In a picture appropriate for the type of weather we continue to experience in the northeast, a flanger movement powered by a pair of RS-3 units heads west at Natick, MA in February of 1961. (Photo: Mr. Robert Coolidge)
Andre Tardif shared
Reece Sabrina Tewell posted
Dave Wall commented on Reece's posting
John Wilkosz posted three photos with the comment: "Jordan Spreader old brochure photos showing various operations."



Rick Leggett made two comments on John's posting:

They can plow snow? lol

Just make sure you don't have the wing locked...if it won't clear the bluff. Speaking for a friend. 🤣 (Yes, the rear trucks of the spreader and both trucks on the first loco are derailed from a turned rail.  )
John Wilkosz posted five photos with the comment: "Some old spreader photos. Jackson Jordan photo archives."





Austin Jacox posted
11/8/18 Bend, OR
BNSF 972678
BLT 4-57
WT. 142400
Formerly ATSF 199246
Wayne N Judy Shaw posted three photos with the comment: "1st two shots - Martins, Mile 141 CN Newmarket Sub - I'm thinking circa fall 1996 waiting for winter. Last shot fast forward to January 2017. Different spreader but almost the exact same spot, just one track over:"
Joe Dockrill old air spreader, no longer around


Jonathan Chavez posted two photos with the comment: "Truckee/Donner Ca."
Ron Manley Time for the Rotary plows to come out.
Dave Haggland Have to wait until it’s too late.

1, cropped

2, cropped
Dennis DeBruler shared
A spreader equipped for double tracks and sidings. This is the first photo I have seen of this configuration. UP at Donner Pass
Allan Gilbert SP had one in Oakridge, Oregon that was painted in Daylight colors.
Joe Dockrill posted
Joe Dockrill engineer can run from the spreader.
Joe commented on his post

Ken Ellison posted
Mark Gillings Home-built by Great Northern. This one built August 1970.Clay Ercolin Mark Gillings Great Northern? How can that be when the merger creating Burlington Northern happened in March of 1970?Mark Gillings Very good point! Further research indicates that the last four built were under BN.Mark Hutchinson Those elephant ears were legendary for taking out depot windows.
Pierre-Luc Dumas posted two photos.
John Ives At least he kept it on the machine. I’ve had to cap all the lines and go back and get the wing with a Pettibone


One of seven photos posted by David Davis and shared by Joe Dockrill
NW Jordan Spreader shot by Larry Stiles 1985
[Note in the other photos how the front snowplow is mounted upside down for the Summer. It seems that it significantly reduces visibility.]

Andre Tardif shared
Joe Edwards Still has those air cylinders on it..

Skip to -4:20 in this video (source) a spreader in action including folding in a wing to pass an obstruction.

An action photo showing that the reason the winglets can be at a different angle is to restore the shape of the drainage ditches on each side of a track. They can also be used for vegetation control without the risk of herbicides. (Update: when posted, the comments discuss that good drainage is the most important aspect of maintaining a good track.)

In the winter a spreader can help remove snow off the track: clearing a single track, to remove the berm between a double track the spreader shoved the snow onto the other track where a rotary snow blower came along and threw the snow way off to the side.    A spreader and a rotary are in the same frame.

Pictures of EJ&E's and MWRD's spreaders parked on a siding waiting for their call to duty.

Another summertime job for a spreader is grooming rip rap when the tracks are close to a river's shore.

A video of a Jordan spreader plowing snow. (source)

Video of snow plowing as viewed from the cab

A video of a BNSF spreader pushing snow in a yard

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