This appears to be a predecessor bridge
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I wonder if there was another bridge between the above bridge and the current 1945 bridge because the cantilever bridge look rather spindly for the Santa Fe locomotives for the early 20th Century. The RR Aban Map shows that there were two crossings of the Colorado River before this one. And that the current one was a realignment to remove the twists and turns of following the river's valley. My theory is that the route that is now in Toprock Bay was the original route and the above bridge was part of that route. Then they appeared to have built a dam that created Toprock Bay. As part of that project they built the second route that followed the river valley. So it appears there was an intermediate bridge. I have not been able to find any information on that bridge.
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| Marty Bernard posted One of Roger Puta's More Spectacular Photos Marty Bernard shared |
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| Cerita Sakura posted The 3 SDP40Fs are now in California, having crossed the Colorado River from Topock, Arizona. The train is essentially ex-Santa Fe Super Chief and El Capitan cars, and it was during this winter of 1973-74 that ATSF disallowed Amtrak to use the Super Chief name any longer. This very late running No. 3 could actually have been the Southwest Limited on this December 5th, 1973. Photo Credit to Steve Patterson. Paulo Mestre shared |
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| Craig Hensley Photography posted Burlington Northern SD40-2 #6379 leads an all BN power set on an eastbound manifest with a long string boxcars making up most of the train. Crossing the Colorado River Bridge November 1996, Rolf Stumpf Photo. Dave Ori: Looks Like the former Train 866 that used to operate between Barstow and Waynoka , OK via the old Frisco Gateway. |
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| Bridges Now and Then posted "AT&SF freight and Bridge in January 1983 This is a westbound approaching the Colorado River bridge (and the Arizona/California border) at Topock, AZ." (Roger Puta Photograph) |
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| Gret Stoney commented on the above post |
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| Bob Squaredancer commented on the above post Here comes another early morning westbound at Topock. Back in 1979 📷 Greg Taggart Henry Corrado: Bob Squaredancer Isn't he coming into California? Wouldn't that make it Westbound? I'm only saying that because the Topock water tower is on the SE corner of this area. Bob Squaredancer: Henry Corrado You may be right. The way the track curves beyond wouldn't match the CA side. Without remembering the details (sorry that's just how it's gotten) I was thinking the sun angle was late afternoon. Now looking more likely early morning. Again I just don't recall. Good catch. |
Marty Bernard posted eight photos with the comment:
8 Photos of 4 Trains at the California and Arizona BorderRoger Puta took these in January 1983 at the AT&SF Colorado River Bridge. The River is the Arizona/California border. He was on a hill in California where he could look at the bridge and across to Arizona and shoot westbounds ore he could turn around looking toward Needles, CA and shoot eastbounds. This sequence has one eastbound and three westbounds. Captions with Photos.Please enjoy Roger's photography.
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| 1 1. and 2. AT&SF SD40-2 5150 westbound with mainly TOFC. Jason Eminian: This is an extremely rare situation. JB Hunt did not start shipping on the ATSF until 1990. Must have been a private move. Sammy Carlile: I noticed the older J B Hunt trailers as well. Definitely a rare move. And the train is a hot one with the UPS vans back there. It also shows how bad the slot use used to be on those flat cars. Look at all that wasted space. They definitely made some huge improvements with efficiency over time. |
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| 2 1. and 2. AT&SF SD40-2 5150 westbound with mainly TOFC. |
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| 3 3. and 4. AT&SF SD45u 5433 westbound with more pigs. Sammy Carlile: A whole train of 10 Packs! A railfans and accountants dream and a hoggers nightmare! LOL [A nightmare because of the lack of slack action?] Sean Graham-White: And a caboose! |
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| 4 3. and 4. AT&SF SD45u 5433 westbound with more pigs. |
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| 5 5. and 6. AT&SF C30-7 8133 eastbound with a merchandise freight train. |
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| 6 5. and 6. AT&SF C30-7 8133 eastbound with a merchandise freight train. |
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| 7 7. and 8. AT&SF C30-7 8132 westbound also with a merchandise freight train. Too bad the two GEs didn't meet on the bridge. |
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| 8 7. and 8. AT&SF C30-7 8132 westbound also with a merchandise freight train. Too bad the two GEs didn't meet on the bridge. |
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| Jan Olejnik posted On the Arizona side of the Topock bridge. Crossing the Colorado River a few miles East of Needles CA. Cody Goodman I bet that bridge sees dozens of trains per day. Jan OlejnikAuthor Cody Goodman On good days well over 100. |
It is so nice when a road bridge is next to a railroad bridge.
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Micheal Hoskins posted five photos with the comment: "All of my shots of the Santa Fe bridge in Needles Ca./AZ as it crosses the Colorado river. In the first shot you can see the Sante Fe logo to the far left #kingofthezoomshots"
Jan Olejnik: Topock, not Needles.
Micheal Hoskins: Jan Olejnik I always do that because in the last shot the Needles are in the background.
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