Saturday, December 9, 2017

Porter Junction: Aban/EJ&E Porter Branch with NS/NYC/LS&MS

Satellite
Southwest of the junction it is easy to follow the RoW because it is now the Prairie Duneland Trail.
I ended with a "dotted line" because there were multiple tracks between Broadway and the NYC tracks. In the satellite image, it appears 3 of the 4 mainline tracks and one siding track is left.

Skip Burch posted
EJ&E road & rail blue print. Porter Indiana
Matt Lasayko This is my picture
Skip Burch Thank you for the picture Matt. I live in Porter, and I worked for the J. My great grandfather, and grandfather worked for the J, starting in 1904.
Matt Lasayko Summer of 85 it was torn up.
It is not clear if there was ever a tower here or if  it was just hand-thrown switches into a NYC interchange yard. We are looking across the NYC tracks to the curved EJ&E track.

Bill Molony posted
EJ&E 2-8-2 Mikado-type #773 at Porter, Indiana on May 12, 1946.
Bob Lalich Wow! Any shot of the J at Porter is rare, let alone steam!

Bill Molony Our DVD shows the EJ&E's entire 20.5-mile long Porter Line eastbound from Griffith to Porter and then return westbound from Porter back to Griffith as it was in the summer of 1972, including the interchange with Penn Central at Porter.
Wayne Hudak commented on Bill's posting
Tho not fully shown, to the right is what was left of the "J", LS&MS, NYC, PC interchange yard in 1993. 2 more tracks to far right are out of camera view. Those are now gone. This is at 15th Street looking east.
Ken Durkel posted two photos with the comment:
I don't think I ever put these up, if for no other reason than that they are positively horrible pictures. But here is the "J" working on the Porter Branch in Hobart in the late 1970s, maybe 1979 or so. Taken by the city ballpark. Hobart Lumber is across the tracks.This was a very familiar sight in Hobart as an engine would be in between cuts of cars, pushing and pulling at the same time. I saw that often. But of course, why would I take pictures? It was never going to end. Or such was the thinking at the time. So I never really did take any pictures other than these. Big mistake. I was content to watch and not take any pictures. Lesson learned.
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Wayne Hudak posted
Another scene of the French Turboliner, coming off the former Michigan Central at Porter Indiana, 1978.
Wayne Hudak commented on a post
The former EJ&E-NYC interchange yard at Chesterton/Porter. What it looks like on August 3, 2018. Only 2 small sections of track left. Scene is looking east from 15th Street.
CONRAIL in Indiana & Illinois posted
A little bit of past history if you all are interested. I know that we had discussed some photos taken on an earlier thread at Porter, IN. So on July 11, 1906, we are looking west on the Lake Shore & Michigan Southern Rwy. at the interlocking with the Michigan Central Rwy. and the Pere Marquette Rwy. We are at Porter, IN. but it was also called Norwood at one time. Out of the Lake Shore & Michigan Southern Rwy. collection.
Ken Durkel THis photo is one of a series of photos featured in the book Lake Shore and Michigan Southern, a book I happen to have a copy of. They have photos all across the line in Indiana. And notice these are so old, around 1910 or so, they were taken in the days of left-handed running on the LS&MS. This was shot from the back of a train.
Ken Durkel Full title is "The Lake Shore & Michigan Southern Railway" by Dave McLellan and Bill Warrick.
Wayne Hudak The photos clearly, to me, were taken from atop a boxcar or caboose, scenes are high above the railbed. Since these are a series of photos, there may have been a boxcar fitted with a special platform for that reason with a locomotive pushing it. Train would stop for the photog to compose and shoot. I guarantee these were not running shots. Just My Humble Observation.
Ken Durkel I agree, they were planned shots, I have seen all of them in the book. But I do know from reading the book that the LS&MS was a left handed running railroad as the CNW was. When that changed, I would have to look in the book and see if I can find that. These were apparently taken around 1906-07.
Chad Quick A lot of rods coming out of that tower. It must have had a lot of levers at this time.
Tim JT White Don't know when it was started, but when we would take a train to Chicago, we used our arrival time at PO tower for our Final Terminal Delay. In plain English, it gave us our place on the call board in Chicago for our trip back home. I had many races down Otis Hill to try and beat a crew out for our FTD time. One spot could make a difference on how long you laid over in Chicago before you got called to go back home. It could mean you got to lay in Chicago for an extra eight hours. Operator at PO would hold the signal till the first train hit the bell. So, hit the bell first and you got the signal. And you may wind up on a worker and the crew you beat down the hill got the SV train or maybe a Deadhead. NYC called their Van trains Super Vans. Under PC it became TV trains. The PRR used to call theirs TT trains.

CONRAIL in Indiana & Illinois shared
Wayne Hudak commented on the above share
All of the track you see in the 1906 photo above basically exists in the same configuration to this day minus the diamonds with the Michigan Central. See the crossovers in the center of the 1906 photo? Just past the tower. Here they are as 2 Conrail GE's head toward them, photo from the tower 1984.
Wayne Hudak commented on the above share
The little yard just east of the tower in the early 50's. All track west of Jackson Street (showing) still exists, except the MC diamonds. Pere Marquette off to the left, to the right, the connection to the Porter branch.
Wayne Hudak That whole "J" interchange yard, where you see all the freight cars, is gone except for 2 sidings. There was 3 up till about 20 years ago where Conrail parked MOW cars, as in this photo. That track is now gone.
Tim JT White I remembered a few tracks there, as I have picked up and set out there. Old timers told me about stopping and watering livestock on the NY trains. I do remember the MOW cars.


If you look at a Porter track diagram, you can see that the curved western spur tied into the west end of a NYC interchange yard. There was no need for the EJ&E and interchange with the Michigan Central because the MC's Joliet Cutoff paralleled the EJ&E all the way to Joliet.

Bob Lalich Flickr 1983 Photo, e/b Contrail freight approaching the tower with coil cars as far as you can see.

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