Wednesday, August 9, 2017

PRR's Freight Houses

(WHOOPS, I did not mean to publish this. But I don't see having the time to clean it up in the foreseeable years, so I'll let it be. (I learn about subject matter when I write. The only thing I learn during editing is how many mistakes I make. Also, the early part of this writing is in a style that is now obsolete.) I remember writing about it being torn down for an electrical switchyard, but I can't find that work now.)

The freight house dominates the background of an American-Rails photo.

Ryerson-Burnham Digital Archives, SAIC, Forgotten Chicago


Chicago, Ill.
Freight house, with molded keystone. West end has been added onto since railroad ownership. Constructed 1920? On Peoria St. [Richard Wallis]Older (1884), curved, brick freight house is still standing, and is now offices of Braun Bottle Co. Inside curve of approach tracks to CUS, between Clinton and Canal Sts., partially under C&NW viaduct. [Richard Wallis]


David M Laz posted
GULF MOBILE AND OHIO passenger train leaving Union station, 1960's
Turk Meyers Damn. That 312 W. Polk building or whatever it's called is really cool!
Screenshot from a video montage. Given the bridge on the right, I think this is of the south end of the freight house. In this area of the video, he switches between some Union Station and Central Station shots before moving on to C&NW, Bensenville, etc. For example, an overview of the CB&Q+Pennsy yards.
A photo from a video montage. Given the bridge on the right, I think this is of the south end of the freight house. He switches between some Union Station and Central Station shots before moving on to C&NW, Bensenville, etc.

Bill Molony posted
Bill's comment:
Pennsylvania Railroad EMD E7A's, easing an eastbound PRR passenger train out of Union Station on the afternoon of June29, 1957.
My interest in this picture is not the trains, but the building in the background --- it is a Pennsy freight house.
David Daruszka posted
Another postcard image of the area south of Union Station. The massive Pennsylvania freight house in the background was demolished.
I include David's copy as well because it looks a little better. And more comments give me more insight.]
Marty Bernard Fantastic picture. Obviously shot from the Roosevelt Road Viaduct with at least 5 PRR E7As and Bs before they had radio antenna on their roofs. Green REA cars. Wonder what those tanks by the closest E7A are?
Bob Lalich I believe those cylinders are air resevoirs. The interlocking was electro-pneumatic.
David Daruszka The postcard is listed as the 1960's.
James Nelson I'm in agreement those are air tanks; no apparent filling/pumping equipment around them, and most of CUSCo was electro-pneumatic. 

William Brown posted
The BN's Afternoon Zephyrs last run April 30, 1971. Leaving Chicago Union Station. An EBay postcard.
MWRD posted
Historical Photo of the Week: The Pennsylvania Company property on the west side of the South Branch of the Chicago River looking south from Madison Street on September 29, 1903. Construction to widen and deepen the river in this area began in 1906. #TBT Chicago River Friends of the Chicago River
[This must have been their PFW&C freight house before they built the big one.]

Sean Gulden shared
A Pennsylvania Railroad publicity photo featuring train #48, the "General" (Chicago - New York), departing Chicago Union Station. The Pennsy's massive freight terminal can be seen in the background (gone today).
[But evidently a poor scan of the photo.]

An American Rails photo of a B&O train leaving Grand Central Station has a view of the PRR freight house on the left side.

> Apparently there are/were 2 Pennsylvania
> freight houses in Chicago, an 1884 and one
> from the 1920's. The one you refer to would
> be the older of the two. A brief description
> of each is here:

> ... ml#freight

> A picture of one of the freight houses is
> here:


The PRR had more than one freight house prior to 1920. The Panhandle and the Ft. Wayne both had in-bound and out-bound houses. The Ft. Wayne had several of each since traffic grew, but the available land didn't. The house on the curve was the Panhandle's, which operated into the north side of Union Station. An 1884 date would be about right for this structure, as Union Depot was built in 1881 and the Panhandle managed to kick out the C&EI, which then had a small depot on the curve. That depot had no tracks and C&EI trains loaded on the Panhandle main. The C&EI helped form the C&WI and moved its trains to Dearborn Station.
After about 1900, most Panhandle passenger trains used the south end of the Union Depot by running over the Bernice cutoff. The north side was still used by commuter trains to the Union Stock Yards until the Depression, but in addition to the use of the tracks by the Milwaukee, the line was convenient to the PRR for receiving the trap cars which ran between the various railroads' freight houses. The erection of the giant Polk Street house eliminated the need for all of the PRR's prior facilities.

Bill Molony posted
A Pennsylvania Railroad A-B-A set of Baldwin DR 6-4-20 sharks in Chicago on January 25, 1953.
Each unit was powered by two Baldwin 608NA 8-cylinder diesel engines rated at 1,000 horsepower each. 
These PRR units were the first shark-nose Baldwins, and the only A1A-A1A sharks ever produced.

1939 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

David also supplied this HubPages link in another posting.

Redo this with the "Tracks South of Union Station" content

Ted Lemen posted
Two CB&Q commuter trains rush south from Union Station, or perhaps one is backing in to load, while Amtrak languishes in the background.
Mike Daniels posted
My K64 original
[Torn down after 333 Wacker built?!]

Bill Molony posted
Pennsylvania Railroad class E7s 4-4-2 Atlantic-type #8588, leaving Chicago Union Station with the local to Valparaiso, Indiana on the afternoon of August 4, 1929.
Bill posted again
Brandon McShane Amazing how little the tracks and buildings in this photo changed from then till the early '70s.
Mitch Markovitz P-54 coaches in the consist. Complete with porthole windows.
Mitch Markovitz Valparaiso, Indiana. "The Dummie." (Not you, that's the name of the train, informally.)
Rod Truszkowski They used that term on the rock island too.
David Daruska updated

Bill Molony posted
Amtrak train #5, the westbound San Francisco Zephyr, departing from Chicago Union Station in September of 1973. 
This train operated just three days a week, and it was routed over the Burlington Northern between Chicago and Denver, the Union Pacific between Denver and Ogden, and over the Southern Pacific between Ogden and Oakland.
Patrick McNamara The Pennsylvania RR Warehouse - a.k.a. Western Warehousing Company, was built in 1915, completed 1918, demolished 1973.
This is also a nice view of the Chicago skyline. I see the tall bank building is now owned by Chase.]
ATSF, Chicago, Illinois, 1971
Santa Fe Railway switcher backing Amtrak passenger train no. 15, the Texas Chief, into Union Station in Chicago, Illinois, on July 4, 1971. Photograph by John F. Bjorklund, © 2015, Center for Railroad Photography and Art. Bjorklund-04-05-03
John Morris posted
GM&O's "Abraham Lincoln" is snaking it's way out of Union Station as it starts the ritual early evening trip to St. Louis. Based on the three heavyweight coaches up front, it looks like an extra heavy passenger load on this trip. As an aside, I never paid much attention to the massive Pennsylvania Railroad freight house building in the background...until it was gone of course. This photo dates from the mid-1960s and was taken from the Roosevelt Road overpass...always a favorite spot for rail buffs.
Tim M. Hickernell Agreed. That PRR freight house must have been one of the largest warehouse buildings of its time. I always wished I could have seen it before it was torn down.Randy James yep, I believe it was a combination pennsy & railway express agency freight house, I read somewhere that it was the largest rr freight house in the country.Brandon McShane Actually, Railway Express had its own terminal along Canal Street out of the frame to the left.Randy James notice the grey baggage car, it was one of a handful of Delaware & Hudson baggage car that was acquired by the gm&o in the late 50's for increasing need for baggage express cars, with associated head end traffic via the mopac connection at st Louis that was coming out of Dallas ft. worth, they were re lettered but never painted into gm&o paint scheme.
[I'm not the only one that noticed the freight house.]
George W Lane posted
This 20x24 is of the Pennsylvania #5251, 4-6-2, leaving Chicago in 1945. Picture by Paul Slager.
[The fright house is in the middle background. The building on the right is the Chicago Board of Trade. Being able to see the BoT from Roosevelt Road west of the South Branch is a reminder that south of the loop used to be just tracks. This view would now consist of piles of condos east of the South River.]
Photo 10 from Classic Trains, John R. Taibi
F3 883-A with Chicago–Joliet commuter train (“The Plug”) departing Chicago, early 1970s.
Ryerson-Burnham Digital Archives, SAIC from Bridge Out for Good
Bill Molony posted
An A-B-A set of Pennsylvania Railroad Baldwin DR-6-4-20 shark-nose diesels in Chicago on January 25, 1953.
The PRR purchased 18 A units and 9 B units from Baldwin in 1948; these PRR units were the first shark-noses, and the only A1A-A1A sharks.
David Daruszka posted
The Broadway Limited departs Chicago's Union Station in 1961. Richard H. Solomon, photographer.
Dennis DeBrulerGroup Admin Pennsy (right) and CB&Q (left) Freight Warehouses, the old post office in the left background, andHarrison Tower at the lower-right corner of the post office. But I don't know what the skinny skyscraper is in the middle of the background. That is probably the Chicago & Alton Freight House to the east of the old post office. It still stands. But I read a developer of the old post office wants to tear it down. I lost track of whether or not it is the current developer.
[The skyscraper is part of the Civic Opera House.]

This posting is also becoming "a south of Pennsy's Freight House" posting. I need to figure out how to split it up. But in the meantime, here is another view of the CUS approach tracks and Pennsy coach yard.
Marvin Smith posted
Tim Russell I recognize "The Plug" headed by a GM&O F unit. I first found some pics of it here DaruszkaGroup Admin Looking northeast at the south approach tracks to Union Station with the Taylor Street viaduct in the background. The trains from left to right: Burlington Northern commuter trains powered by one of their venerable E8's, Gulf, Mobile and Ohio commuter trains (aka "The Plug") powered by an F7, Amtrak GP7 760 (ex Frisco 610) handling equipment led by an SDP40F. To the right is the Amtrak (former Pennsylvania) coach yard.Robert Petit David, I believe that it's Taylor street in the background. COMED has a switching facility there.David DaruszkaGroup Admin Robert Petit Thanks. I forgot Taylor Street still ran to the river after the bridge was removed.Robert Petit The steam line to CUS is what gave it away for me.Rowan Collins That’s awesome Amtrak rainbow era still there!!

Bill Molony shared's photo. A comment provided a link to "Will Price's Pennsylvania Railroad Freight Terminal, 1918."

Bill Molony shared a sharing of Paul Enenback's Fickr Photo.
Dennis DeBruler This is one of those historic pictures where the more you look, the more you see. The Pennsy freight terminal in the background got my immediate attention. It looks like US Mail used containers on flat cars a long time ago. And you can see AT&T microwave horn antennas near the upper-right corner. I'm still trying to figure out what those building on the east side of the South Branch were.

Marty's Flickr of Burlington NW2 switching passenger cars.

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