Many of the photos of the C&NW Hubbard Street Yard include this tower.
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| C&NWHS plus Paint We are looking to the northwest from the end of the platforms of the C&NW Madison Street Station. The bridge in the foreground carries the CTA "Green" and "Pink" lines over the terminal throat. Check out the interior of the Lake Street C&NW tower seen at the right side of the CTA bridge in the following photo. What C&NW "400" streamliner is that? There is a lot of detail to be seen in this photo. [I put a red rectangle around Clinton Tower. The yellow rectangle shows Lake Street Tower.] |
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| Marty Bernard shared his photo 2. A F7A pulls a scoot on the station leads taken from the Sears Tower on March 9, 1975. Center right is C&NW Clinton Street Tower. [To the left of the tower are remnants of the Kinzie Street Team Tracks.] |
A view of the north side of the tower:
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| Justin Oates posted The former C&NW Navy Pier Spur to the Chicago Tribune between Grand Ave and Kedzie St back in 1999. [It also delivered newsprint to the Sun-Times Building. In fact, Sun-Times was the last customer for this spur.] |
More views of the tower are available in some of the photos of the Kinzie Street Team Track Yard.
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| Keith Rieger Sr. posted These are not of the best quality but someone may find them interesting. Shot from the cab car front door of an inbound scoot in 1972 or so heading into the C&NW station. Keith Rieger photos [Note that we can see part of the tower on the left.] |
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| Randal Wiegel posted Patrick McNamara The Chicago Apparel Center (just South of the Tower) looks completed and occupied - and that happened in 1977. Carl Shaver Very early in my career, I caught the State Street job and we went over that bridge and out to Navy Pier. The operator at the Noble Street tower had to come and operate the bridge to let us in, and again to let us out. (Does the bridge have landmark status?) Patrick McNamara Permanently locked in open position since 2001...Designated a Chicago Landmark in 2007. John Venice That bridge is lowered once a year by the UPRR CSU Bridge Maintenance folks, they did it just a few months ago. |
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| Jerry Cramer posted Job NO68 on the track behind Clinton Street Tower. This track went out to Navy Pier. Jerry Cramer I was the engineer. We were waiting for the tower man to come out of the tower to walk over to the bridge over the river to let it down so we could go spot the SunTimes newspaper. |
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| Steve Malachinski posted CNW Archives photo |
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| Wayne Hudak posted a 1978 shot from the Sears Tower. You can see not only Clinton Street Tower at the curve, but also its long shadow. |
This photo would have been taken from the tower.
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| C&NHS We see a "City" train some time in the 1930s run by the Union Pacific in conjunction with the C&NW inbound from today's west line at Kinzie Street. Note in the right distance a "scoot" headed out, probably to Crystal Lake. Today's Bloomer Chocloate Company occupies the site above the reefers at lower left. From the Ray Buhrmaster collection at the C&NW Hist. Soc. archives. Jeff Davies posted "City" train some time in the 1930s run by the Union Pacific in conjunction with the C&NW inbound from today's west line at Kinzie Street. Note in the right distance a "scoot" headed out, probably to Crystal Lake. Chicago. 1930s. Photo courtesy of Chicago & North Western Historical Society. Andy Thomson: I was a brakeman and then a fireman on the CNW in one of my former lives back in the early 1970's. I was on the Wisconsin Division. I really appreciate the CNW pics you have been posting. Those old semaphore arms on the signals, gone now because lights are cheaper to maintain, are like old friends. Thank you!! |
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| David Daruszka commented on a posting I believe it was demolished and Lake Street now runs the whole interlocking. |
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| 1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP |
Twenty years ago (give or take), and thanks to the kind courtesy of some local Union Pacific folks I worked with back then, I had the opportunity to photograph two separate Metra (ex C&NW) rush hours from locations that one ordinarily would not be allowed to be. The first, a morning (inbound) rush in July, 1997, was from ground level in the area immediately adjacent to Clinton Street Tower. The second chance, which included a few photos from atop the first semaphore signal bridge west of Clinton Street, was during the afternoon (outbound) peak period in April, 2000. In both instances, UP provided a signal supervisor to escort me while I was on either the structures or on the right of way. Here are some views from the afternoon effort. I will post a few others from the morning rush hour next week. All photos by Mark Hinsdale
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| Mark Llanuza posted The year 2001 at Clinton st tower Dennis DeBruler The Blommer Chocolate Company sign let me know you are facing West This is the first time I have seen this view. The other shots I have seen from this tower are looking towards Union Station. |
David Daruszka posted eight photos with the comment:
One location, many trains. The C&NW's Clinton Street interlocking was the dividing point between their North and West lines. The sweeping curvature of the westward Galena Division provided many photo opportunities through the years.
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| 1 Class E-2B Pacific 2911 is pulling out of Chicago with the heavyweight 400. C&NW P.R photo taken between 1935 and 1939. Class E-2 was a 4-6-2 "Pacific" type locomotive built by the American Locomotive Company in Schenectady, New York in 1923.[1] Twelve were originally built, and all were later converted with larger drivers and other changes in order to run at higher speeds, and re-designated E-2A (oil fired) and E-2B (coal fired) |
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| 2 E-4 Hudson 4001 with Chicago–Oakland Forty-Niner departing Chicago, circa 1938 |
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| 3 Six afternoon suburban trains — one outbound (far right) and five waiting to back into North Western Terminal — at Clinton Street Tower, June 1953. The Wisconsin Division trains came from the Erie Street Coach Yard while the Galena Division trains came from California Avenue. David DaruszkaGroup Admin I worked in engine service at the C&NW for a number of years. We had the benefit of operating from the cab car. This was all done with tail hoses on the rear cars. Evening rush was trains out and trains in, in rapid succession. That's still true today at the three terminals that provide Chicago commuter service. The rush hour fandango, Gary Statkus posted Chicago and North Western commuter trains, referred to as 'scoots' by the C&NW train crews, leave, and wait to back into the C&NW Madison Street terminal. Date unknown, but somewhere around the mid to late 1940's plus/minus some years. Edward Kwiatkowski shared Jack Fuller The proper name is "Chicago Passenger Terminal". Carl Venzke posted Chicago & North Western commuter trains led by 4-6-2 steam locomotives on the big curve just north of the the North Western Terminal in Chicago in the 1950s. Center for Railroad Photography & Art also posted View by Wally Abbey of Chicago & North Western commuter trains in Chicago in 1952. Bob Lalich The bridge on the left was Milwaukee Road's swing bridge to their Kingsbury Branch, which originally was intended to continue to Evanston. The northern portion of the line was acquired by a predecessor of the CTA. There is a good explanation of the line here: http://www.chicago-l.org/operations/freight/ |
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| One of several photos posted by Ray John David Daruszka Clinton Street Tower was the control point for the divide between the Wisconsin and Illinois Divisions. The fuel cars on the grade level were for the upper level "fuel pocket" used for suburban service locomotives. Love the old MOW boxcar. Scott Greig Didn't the Apparel Center go up in the 70s? David Daruszka 1976-77. Scott Greig And I think the TV towers atop Marina City came down around 1978. David Daruszka Correct Scott Greig. So this would place the photo in the 77-78 category. |
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| Photo posted by Mike Breski
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Dennis DeBruler Left of the signal bridge is part of the Milwaukee bridge that connected their Chicago & Evanston route with Union Station.» Steam 4-6-2 (more..)» Unknown » Chicago, Illinois, USA (more..) » 1952Locomotive No./Train IDPhotographer» CNW 663 (more..) » Unknown» Center for Railroad Photography and Art (more..) » Contact Photographer · Photographer Profile Remarks & Notes A steam powered suburban train emerges from the C&NW's Chicago passenger terminal (now Metra's Olgilvie Transportation Center) in this 1952 view by photographer Wallace W. Abbey. Courtesy of the Center for Railroad Photography & Art. Dennis DeBruler I took another look because it occurred to me last night that this view should included the Clinton Street Tower. It does, but it is obscured by the escaping steam. The fireman evidently got a good head of steam to leave the station and popped the safety valve. Note how clean the smokestack is. Firemen for exhibition trains deliberately make black smoke when they approach railfans along the tracks. I've watched videos where the stack is clean as it comes into view and then gets dirty when it gets closer. Steam was not as dirty as we would conclude with just today's limited data points. |
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| Wallace W. Abbey
CNW, Chicago, Illinois, 1950s
Chicago & North Western streamlined passenger train behind E8A diesel no. 5023A passes a steam-powered commuter train on the big curve just north of the the North Western Terminal in Chicago in the 1950s. Photograph by Wallace W. Abbey, © 2015, Center for Railroad Photography and Art. Abbey-02-070-12[Facebook broke their "save a link" function last week so I don't have a link to the posting.] |
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| Gaza Duna posted The Twin Cities 400, and the City of San Francisco. [This photo shows that the Chicago & Evanston bridge is open. The tower is out-of-frame to the left.] |
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| 4 C&NW Pacific 514 (renumbered from 1514) with a Suburban train. The diesel locomotive in the distance is a Fairbanks Morse Erie-built unit (either 6001-A or 6002-A) acquired in 1947. Classic Trains Magazine collection. |
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| 5 E3 diesels with Chicago–Minneapolis 400, 1939. |
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| 6 Chicago & North Western F7 4085-A leads a train of bi-level “gallery” cars out of the road’s Chicago Passenger Terminal in March 1960. Future bi-level orders would displace the old heavyweight cars at right. J. Parker Lamb photo |
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| 8 C&NW's Crandall Cab 503. These units were former Union Pacific E8B units modified with shop built cabs. In the foreground is one of the unique semaphore dwarf signals that were used throughout the terminal interlocking. |
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| Jim Arvites posted View looking north toward the Clinton Street Tower Interchange during the evening rush hour in 1948 of Chicago & North Western suburban trains being backed into the C&NW's Madison Street Station to load commuters for their ride home.(Andreas Feininger Photo) Jon Roma "Interchange" is a highway not railroad term, but it's quite probably also spell-correct run amuck! :-) The term would be "interlocking". Clinton Street was the interlocking plant where the C&NW Wisconsin and Galena (now Illinois) Divisions joined. From left to right, there is equipment occupying 2, 4, 5, and 6 leads, which fan out behind the photographer into the 16 station tracks. I assume the photographer is standing on signal bridge "A". That is bridge "B" adjacent to Clinton St. Tower. When this picture was taken, the Galena and Wisconsin Divisions had their own separate coach yards: In the far background, you can see a train coming off Wisconsin 4 main, and (probably) heading to 6 lead behind the train on the front right. What a glorious shot this is! Philip Wizenick How did the locomotives turn around. Was the entire train wyed ? Scott Greig My guess is that the trains were backed out of the terminal after the morning rush, then run down to Erie Street yard, and the engines taken off and turned on the turntable there. For the PM rush, pull out of Erie Street yard and then back them down to the terminal. Jon Roma I understand that some trains did not turn at their outlying suburban terminal because of a lack of turntable; in those cases, the trains ran tender first. Dennis DeBruler The Erie Street Yard, https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/.../cnws-passenger..., handled just commuter trains. More commuter trains and the intercity trains were part of the 40th Street Yard Complex, https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/.../c-passenger... Dennis DeBruler This photo is old enough to show boxcars and trucks using the Kinzie Street Team Tracks inside the curve. This is the first view I have seen of those team tracks that show the heavy duty gantry crane used to load and unload heavy loads.https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/.../c-milwaukee... Jim Arvites also posted Mitch Markovitz When I was becoming a passenger trainman in the C&NW in 1970 a candidate had to learn, qualify, and be certified to back up trains from the coach yard. I had this technique. The tail hoses had a whistle and a brake feature in one casting. In order to keep the whistle silent and to get full brake pressure I would keep a full roll of toilet paper, obtained from the nearest john in the hind car, and held it around the whistle. When coming to a final stop at the bumping post I would big hole the pipe, release the roll of toilet paper which would shoot up in the air, hold out my uniform cap and catch it. I received applause once, and a nasty comment from the trainmaster. Tom Wyckoff Feinenger was a photographer of some note. Of particular interest in this photo are the out-of-focus corners (product of an early wide-angle lens) and the rather extreme haze (looks like just a mile or two of visibility). |
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Mark LLanuza FlickrU.P 1996 Olympic train clinton tower 1996The 1996 U.P Olympic train heads into CNW station with a all painted Olympic train.Were on top of the Tire company with perrmission from the owner to get this great view with clinton St tower and all its semaphores |
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| Steven J. Brown posted Nickel Plate 765 departs on the Chicago and North Western from Madison Street in Chicago, Illinois - September 9, 1985. the old C&NW terminal in the right background Dennis DeBruler shared Steven caught a nice view of the C&NW Clinton Tower that helps put it in context. This is also a Facebook test to verify that links in the comments don't override the share itself.  Author The tank cars are unloading fuel into the permanent storage tanks inside the concrete barrier. Next to those tanks is a pump house . |
Four photos by Mark Llanuza from cnwvets (source: Richard Mead posting):
Mark Hinsdale posted four photos with the comment:
Today, the tower has been removed. The foundation is left because it is part of the tracks embankment.
Patrick McNamara 1969, when Grand Central Station was demolished. And please - do not refer to the C&NW's Chicago Passenger Terminal - CPT - as anything BUT that. Even today's UP crews refer to it in that manner. NEVER by the name of that silly Republican thief.
David Daruszka The move was west to C&NW's Rockwell Jct. (Pennsy's Panhandle & C&NW trackage) then south to B&O's Rockwell Jct. where it entered the B&O Chicago Terminal tracks.
Harold J. Krewer Easily the most convoluted route into Chicago of any passenger carrier.
Jon Habermaas The route also traveled part of the distance on the Rock Island through Brainard and eastward. Took that train several times when it operated out of Grand Central...C&O operated the former Pere Marquette passenger service with elderly B&O and C&O passenger equipment. B&O's Capitol Limited also used that route and remember watching it go by when we were stopped at the crossing at 89th and Vincennes.
David Daruszka Harold J. Krewer Similar to the Panhandle when they ran passenger service.
Matt McClure You have to have a looong memory to remember B&O passenger trains on the SE side. The old ROW is still find - able in spots.
http://forgottenchicago.com/articles/south-shore-bo-spur/
Glen Miller posted a RailPictures.Net photo of a 1952 C&NW passenger train. I could not find the photo on Rail Pictures.
At 2:43 in this video, this tower appears on the left.
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| Thomas Manz posted C&NW scoot at Clinton tower (C William Brubaker) Dennis DeBrulerYou and 1 other manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Chicago Railroad Historians. The cars in the foreground are in the C&NW Hubbard Street Yard. Dennis DeBrulerYou and 1 other manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Chicago Railroad Historians. The tracks north of Kenzie were the C&NW Kenzie Street Team Tracks. |
"Remembering Clinton Street Tower"
In August, 1997, I was fortunate to be given an opportunity to visit Union Pacific's former Chicago & North Western interlocking tower at Clinton Street in Chicago. Clinton Street is the junction of the historic ex C&NW's North and Northwest Lines from Milwaukee and Madison, with the West Line from Omaha. just outside C&NW's Chicago Passenger Terminal (CPT) at Madison and Clinton Streets. Always a very busy place, especially during the morning and afternoon rush hours, Clinton Street fielded trains entering CPT from all three lines, and directed outbound traffic to the intended route leaving the city. The brick tower is gone now, its functions having been relocated to Lake Street Tower, closer to CPT. Photos by Mark Hinsdale
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| 4 Douglas Greener Pretty cool, kinda reminds me of Del Ray Tower or the Rough Bridge when they took us on a tour our first day for pay. Not sure if they still look like this. Haven’t been invited back inside since. Great pics.Mark Hinsdale I started my railroad career in June, 1971 at Delray, Plymouth and Rougemere on the C&O. |
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| 3D Satellite Jon Roma commented on a Dennis DeBruler share Jon Roma Dennis DeBruler, there is no part of Clinton Street Tower that remains above track level. When it was closed around the turn of the century, UP massively reconfigured the tracks in the area to eliminate some of the complex specialwork, and replaced the old interlocking with three separate plants. Northwest Jct. controls the divide between the six-track station throat and the two four-track mains. Halsted Street interlocking controls crossovers on the Illinois Division side, and Erie Street controls crossovers on the Wisconsin Division side. The three interlocking plants are controlled by the train director at Lake Street using a CRT system. To be completely pedantic, it's inaccurate to refer to "C&NW Northwest Junction" since the modern plants did not replace Clinton Street Tower until about six years after C&NW was merged into UP. There are just a handful of manned interlocking towers left in the Chicago area. On the former C&NW now operated by UP is Lake Street and CY (Clybourn). There's still A-2 and B-17 on the former Milwaukee Road. 16th Street Tower still holds firm, even though the building doesn't. The ex-Rock Island's Blue Island Tower is still in use. The former EJ&E JB Tower in West Chicago is still open. That's about it except for a few drawbridges where the operators still control signals. |
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| Paul Musselman posted Clinton St. (or Kinzie St.?) tower, and lead coming toward Erie coach yard.....notice this is from when CNW still had semaphores on the bridges.....blend of two photos.. |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Paul's post "Clinton Street" is the name I have seen for this tower. Because the tracks are elevated, we can still see the foundation for this tower. |
Bill Molony shared an American-Rails photo of a B&O passenger train on C&NW trackage: "Baltimore & Ohio E8A #1435 has Chesapeake & Ohio's train #8, the eastbound "Pere Marquette" (Chicago - Grand Rapids), on its last run as it departs Chicago & North Western's North Western Terminal on April 30, 1971. John Kirchner photo." Some of the comments on the share:
Thomas Leaton When did the B&O start using the C&NW (now Ogilvie) terminal?Patrick McNamara 1969, when Grand Central Station was demolished. And please - do not refer to the C&NW's Chicago Passenger Terminal - CPT - as anything BUT that. Even today's UP crews refer to it in that manner. NEVER by the name of that silly Republican thief.
David Daruszka The move was west to C&NW's Rockwell Jct. (Pennsy's Panhandle & C&NW trackage) then south to B&O's Rockwell Jct. where it entered the B&O Chicago Terminal tracks.
Harold J. Krewer Easily the most convoluted route into Chicago of any passenger carrier.
Jon Habermaas The route also traveled part of the distance on the Rock Island through Brainard and eastward. Took that train several times when it operated out of Grand Central...C&O operated the former Pere Marquette passenger service with elderly B&O and C&O passenger equipment. B&O's Capitol Limited also used that route and remember watching it go by when we were stopped at the crossing at 89th and Vincennes.
David Daruszka Harold J. Krewer Similar to the Panhandle when they ran passenger service.
Matt McClure You have to have a looong memory to remember B&O passenger trains on the SE side. The old ROW is still find - able in spots.
http://forgottenchicago.com/articles/south-shore-bo-spur/
At 2:43 in this video, this tower appears on the left.
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