Wednesday, June 14, 2017

Duluth+Superior Ship Loading Docks

When I learned that Wyoming Powder Basin coal was shipped to power plants on the St. Clair River via Lakers, I was not sure where the coal dock was in the Duluth+Superior harbor area. This picture and its caption answers my question.

(Update: Superior, WI, had docks for Great Northern, Northern Pacific, and C&NW Railroads.)

David Schauer posted
Nice late afternoon light illuminates the Great Lakes Trader (and Joyce) arriving at CN to load pellets for Cleveland while across the bay the PRT finishes up loading coal for St. Clair. June 11, 2017.

Robby Gragg posted
As seen from on top of a bluff above Duluth, MN, the IC 6251 departs the dock with ore empties.

Dan Mackey posted
With Jerry’s post from Superior, WI the other day it reminded me of an old map of the Twin Ports Principal Docks. This is from Greenwood’s Great Lakes 1966 edition. Sorry for the low quality of the image but I’ll do my best to explain the elevators and locations.
In 1966 there were 5 grain Elevators on the Duluth Side of the harbor, of those 3 are still around in 2020.
14. General Mills- still there
17. Cargill-still there. Greatly expanded
19. Capital-wood portion burned down in 1978. Concrete portion-Was AGP, new owner recently.
21. Occidental-torn down 1998
22. Peavey-torn down 1998
On the Superior side of the harbor there were 8 elevators of which 5 are left in 2020.
40. Great Northern S & X- still there, I think it’s General Mills these days.
41. Globe Elevator- wooden. Been in the salvage process for many years. Main house is gone. Wooden annexes one is half done the other still stands.
43 & 44. Farmers Union 1 & 2. Still there. Became GTA, now Cenex Harvest States.
51. Osborne McMillan Elevator O- wooden, torn down in the early 1980’s.
52. Osborne McMillan Elevator M- still there, now Hansen Mueller complex including the old King Midas flour Mill from Jerry’s post
58. Itasca Elevator. I believe it was a Cargill Elevator. Torn down in the 1960’s.
59. Continental Grain- still there, was Peavey Connors Point, then Concourse Grain and I lost track after that.
The Blue Highlighted Elevator was the King Midas Flour Mill, it didn’t get a map location number because it wasn’t served by ships, which is the purpose of this map.
Dennis DeBruler commented on Dan's post
To help orient myself:

The coal loading dock with the grain elevators in the background.
Satellite

Sue Bob Kruse posted
Walter J McCarthy Jr at Midwest Energy loading coal.
Dennis DeBruler I wondered what the name of the loading company was. Neither Google nor Bing label it on their maps. https://www.google.com/.../@46.7373908,-92.../data=!3m1!1e3


The CN/Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range ore loading dock with ore storage piles. (Update: Dock 5 describes the now abandoned dock that is next to the active Dock 6.)

Satellite

Wayne Ciampaglia posted
Illinois Central SD on Duluth ore dock 5-25-14

Grain loading was (is?) done at Rice's Point and several other places in the harbor area.
Howard Pletcher posted
Here's a history of the lake-front elevators in Duluth, MN. Photo is from the 1930s.
[Note that there were some big wood elevators. It looks like some of them have been replaced by concrete silos or the dock has been converted to handle other materials.]
Update:
Stephan Orourke posted
Early Duluth
These are even older views. Note only are the elevators still made of wood, some of the ships have three sailing masts.
Steve Vanden Bosch posted four photos with the comment: "Duluth Harbor the Photo is from the Library of Congress"
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This posting answers the question of the current usage of Rice's Point grain elevators:
Dave Mikelson posted
Elevators on Rice's Point...Duluth Minnesota. Most of the grain products now load in Superior.
 Wayne Ciampaglia posted three photos with the comment: "Duluth Rices Point yard Summer, 1980 third picture 8093"
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Eric Berger posted
My first view of Duluth, through the windshield on an Interstate.
[3D Satellite]
Street View
The Interstate does provide some interesting views of the docks.
Street View

Andrew Haenisch posted
Original press photo. The newspaper caption on the back of the photograph says the following. "A French ship took on a load of grain at the port of Duluth - Superior". The photo is dated October 8th, 1978.
Photographer is unknown.
  • Great Lakes Shipping History


David Schauer posted
The new Algoma Strongfield takes on a cargo of UTAC pellets at CN's Dock 6 in West Duluth for Quebec City (for eventual movement to Europe). This is the first trip to the Twin Ports for the Strongfield, which was delivered recently from a shipyard in China as part of Algoma's fleet modernization program. June 18, 2017.
Google Maps
Marty Bernard posted
DM&IR ore docks in Duluth, MN on March 16, 1984. Walt Dunlap photo

Jeff Andersen posted
The Winter 2018 CHS COOP magazine has this centerfold photo of the CHS Port of Superior, WI elevator with text. It is nice to see it still active.
Twin Ports Rail posted
Spring is here and so is the shipping season. The James R Barker backs into the slip at CN Dock 6 in West Duluth while a BNSF coal train unloads across the bay and a roadswitch job with IC 6252 works the dock. This is the first ship of the season for Dock 6, loading UTAC pellets. March 22, 2018.
Jose D Nevarez No chance CN will open the other bridge?Twin Ports Rail Nope - eventually will be scrapped.Gary Luskey Does alot of grain still get loaded on to ships up there yet?Twin Ports Rail Not much relative to 20 years ago. Spring and fall still see some decent activity.
Robby Gragg posted
A former DM&IR tunnel motor rests on the Duluth dock. Duluth, MN

Wayne Ciampaglia posted
Illinois Central SD on the Duluth Ore Dock 5-25-14
Mark Strock Never seen this dock in action, are they going up or coming down? I imagine they are winched up.
DaBob Olson Optical illusion, the tracks are actually level, the picture is taken from above and at an angle. I have been to Duluth, no dock is going up hill like that. But it does make you think.
Picture taken from Skyline Parkway Overlook. https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4...
Edward Duke posted six photos with the comment: "10-7-19 Some elevator shots from Duluth, MN and Superior, WI."
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Edward Duke This is the old General Mills elevator in Duluth, MN.

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Edward Duke Closer up of the General Mills elevator.

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Edward Duke Is this the Cargill elevator?

Al Miller posted
Views of a glass plate print of the Soo Line whaleback Washburn loading. Although the elevator says Duluth, I believe this actually is in Superior, Wis.
[Al's posting includes three closeups of the whaleback boat.]
Tim Pranke Al, I don't think I have seen this one before. And you are correct, this is Superior, the elevator that burn a couple years ago.
Al Miller Tim Pranke This is a 1980s print made off a glass plate neg that I believe was shot by D.F. Barry, who set up shop in Superior for a time and apparently did some work for McDougall in the early days to help publicize the whaleback design.

Mike Harlan shared
Greg Sumser I believe that elevator is STILL standing near BARCO in Superior.

Dennis DeBruler shared
The first photo is of interest. According to Google Earth images, it burned between Sep 2006 and Sep 2008. It appears it has been disassembled for the wood.
https://www.google.com/…/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x52ae53fa…
It looks like these elevators are also being "mined" for wood.
https://www.google.com/…/@46.7388935,-92.1018…/data=!3m1!1e3
Rick Aylsworth Yes, it was being salvaged for timber at the time of the fire.
Bob Summers Estimated date for this photo? Looks like a steam engine room on the left, so likely before they had electric motors?
Dennis DeBruler The first whaleback was built in 1887, so this could be before electricity became popular. Or they may have converted it to electricity but they hadn't bothered to tear down the steam plant. I think it is safe to say that it is old enough that it originally operated with steam instead of electricity.
I just noticed the wires in the foreground. But I don't think those are electric power wires.
We are also left with the question of what did the conveyor on the right go to.
Bob Summers Dennis DeBruler based on my research the mills and elevators here in central Kansas converted to powering with electric motors mostly in the second decade of the 20rh century, may have had electric light a little earlier. When our first concrete terminal was built in Hutchinson in 1913 they used electric motors, and the mills and older wooden elevators were starting to change over from the coal fired steam power plants. Lots of fires in those days. I suppose the conveyor you mentioned when to another laker loading pier to the right.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Greg's comment on Mike's post
It looks like it got disassembled for the wood.
https://www.google.com/.../data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4...
Judging from images from Google Earth, it burned between Sep 2006 and Sep 2008. I include a Dec 2005 image because it is better.
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Or is it these elevators that are being "mined" for wood.
3D Satellite

Is Anand shared a Marco Delgado post
Fred Babin Interesting to see the ship discharging cargo prior to taking on a load of iron ore pellets.
Brandon Lee Many of these lake freighters haul limestone, coal or other commodity up north on the return trips.
Dennis DeBruler And the UP Big Boy is a bonus.

David Schauer posted
Arthur M. Anderson loading on the west side of Dock 6 in Duluth. Minntac pellets for Great Lakes Works. 8/2/19

William Brown shared a David Schauer post
Ultimate rail & sail combination. Timing is everything, and everything came together this evening as three trains converged at Dock 6 in Duluth while the distinctive laker John D. Leitch loaded ore. Great light and color with the shadows holding off long enough to get all three trains unobstructed. Canadian railroads and boat plus all EMD. Credit skillful piloting by Gus with composition/exposure and framing assist from dad. 8/6/19

David Schauer posted
A Friday Flashback from the Basgen files. Medium format color transparency showing three silver stackers in layup and the modern Cargill facility under construction (that leads me to believe this was photographed in fall 1976). The lakers, from what I can make out using a 10x loop, are the Thomas F. Cole (1907), Peter A. B. Widener (1906) and the Alva C. Dinkey (1909). Basgen Photography
3D Satellite
In 1888, this harbor also had the world's largest grain elevator. It was being disassembled to salvage its old-growth wood when it burned Dec 17, 2018.

Unfortunately, I don't have the time to find where this is in Duluth.
Ben Stalvey posted
Can you spot the Manitowoc 4100?
Jordan Korzenowski Port of Duluth
Mike Holland Yes just left of center. Right behind the aggregate piles for the asphalt plant.
[The answer seems to be the red one that is front and center with an "offset boom." So I guess it is not just the 2250 that has a fixed gantry. Note all of the wind tower segments in the background. I assume they are being imported instead of exported.]




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