Mark Hinsdale posted Picking up interchange cars from Canadian National at Kankakee. |
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This Kankakee, Beaverville, & Southern/NYC/Big Four bridge seems to have escaped the attention of the Bridge Hunters as well as mine.
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Sam Carlson posted On November 10, 1994, three KB&S RS11s cross the Kankakee River in Aroma Park, IL. [He posted all three photos below and asked for opinions. Since this group is public, I'll let you read the comments yourself.] |
Two of six photos posted by Marty Bernard with the comment: "I am posting steam engine slides taken by A. C. Kalmbach and sold by Blackhawk Films as a group of 48 slides. They are quite enjoyable but have slightly deteriorated over the years. The dates that Kalmbach took the slides and the dates Blackhawk sold them are not given. The captions are as printed on the slides and as you will see are not as technical as a railfan would want. The slides were donated to the Iowa Chapter of the National Railroad Historical Society. Please enjoy!"
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b Marty Bernard shared Marty Bernard shared |
Larry Candilas commented on Marty's second share of the "b" photo. Aroma Park; exact same angle a few years later. |
Sam Carlson posted three photos with the comment:
The second image seems the least dramatic to me. No real angle to the train, yet not a flat broadside. The lead locomotive's nose separates from the background much better than the first image. The greenery in the lower left and the bright bridge pier on the very left are both a bit distracting to me, but these could disappear with a tiny crop off the left.
The third image is the only one that really has a story to it. The story might be stronger if the fishers were more prominent. It would definitely be stronger if the train wasn't as far into the scene. If the lead locomotive was 1/3 to 1/2 way into the image there would be more chance it would look like the fishers are looking at the train, and the two points would likely balance better. Finally, the lead locomotive is merging into the trees again.
Of these images I'd likely prefer the first. I'd probably crop it into a panoramic shape to remove the distracting greenery at the bottom and some of the excess sky.
Be aware, my comments are based on viewing on my small phone screen.
Here we have the KB&S crossing the Kankakee River in Aroma Park, IL on October 10, 1994. The first one is as the train starts across the river, with ducks on the water. The next shot is in the middle of the bridge. The third photo shows the train crossing over while a father and son fish from the bank. Which one is best - ducks, middle, or fishers? And, why?Rob Scrimgeour The first photo is probably closest to a traditional railfan photo. I like the angle to the train, and the scene overall. The ducks seem to me to be more of a distraction than a good addition. Similarly, the greenery in the bottom centre seems distracting, while the branches in the lower right fit well. Finally, the lead locomotive merges a bit with the trees, as they are both the same height.
The second image seems the least dramatic to me. No real angle to the train, yet not a flat broadside. The lead locomotive's nose separates from the background much better than the first image. The greenery in the lower left and the bright bridge pier on the very left are both a bit distracting to me, but these could disappear with a tiny crop off the left.
The third image is the only one that really has a story to it. The story might be stronger if the fishers were more prominent. It would definitely be stronger if the train wasn't as far into the scene. If the lead locomotive was 1/3 to 1/2 way into the image there would be more chance it would look like the fishers are looking at the train, and the two points would likely balance better. Finally, the lead locomotive is merging into the trees again.
Of these images I'd likely prefer the first. I'd probably crop it into a panoramic shape to remove the distracting greenery at the bottom and some of the excess sky.
Be aware, my comments are based on viewing on my small phone screen.
Thanks for sharing.
Mike Tisdale I'll go for the ducks as you also got some fall color in the photo and gave it more of a sense of place. The fishermen are a nice touch, but a bit small to be a really significant element of the photo. I do that too, see something in a scene and think it will be a good feature of the photo, only to sometimes realize that when I see the photo on a monitor that what I noticed in real life is a tiny speck on the overall photo.
Sam Carlson To tell you the truth, I didn't see the fishermen when I copped the shot. I didn't notice them til I got the shot back.
Dennis DeBruler Sam Carlson I think the key thing is what I have seen you advocate in other forums: take advantage of the economics of digital photography and shoot early and often. It is nice to have the "problem" of having to pick the best shot. It is the first photo that caught my eye. But I'm not experienced enough to explain why I like it. I'm also learning for the other comments.
Kenny posted six photos of the bridge.
Mike Tisdale I'll go for the ducks as you also got some fall color in the photo and gave it more of a sense of place. The fishermen are a nice touch, but a bit small to be a really significant element of the photo. I do that too, see something in a scene and think it will be a good feature of the photo, only to sometimes realize that when I see the photo on a monitor that what I noticed in real life is a tiny speck on the overall photo.
Sam Carlson To tell you the truth, I didn't see the fishermen when I copped the shot. I didn't notice them til I got the shot back.
Dennis DeBruler Sam Carlson I think the key thing is what I have seen you advocate in other forums: take advantage of the economics of digital photography and shoot early and often. It is nice to have the "problem" of having to pick the best shot. It is the first photo that caught my eye. But I'm not experienced enough to explain why I like it. I'm also learning for the other comments.
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Sam commented on his post 20 shots later, we got this one. One of the units was put on the rear so they could switch a facing point siding. It was a great day! |
Bill Molony shared Kankakee County Museum Photo Archive Rich Westerman This bridge is now owned by KBS. Steve Drassler also posted Photo from the Kankakee Daily Journal archive of an eastbound Big 4 passenger train crossing the Kankakee River at Aroma Park, IL long before the James Whitcomb Riley streamlined service began in 1941. This train would have stopped a few minutes earlier at the Kankakee Big 4 depot, mentioned in an earlier post. |
Steve commented on his post Here's a view now, sans train, looking the other way. KBSR still has a regular interchange with the CN (ICRR) at Kankakee. Not every day but frequently. |
MarMarinou
Caption: “KB&S train rolls south across the Kankakee River bridge in Aroma Park, Illinois. This was actually two trains in one. They combined the cars and power in Kankakee before departing south. You can see the headlight of the second unit just off the end of the bridge.”
Kankakee, Beaverville & Southern Railroad
Aroma Park, Illinois
December 26, 1994
Photo by Barry Lennon
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Junior Hill posted SB KB&S train returning from Kankakee crosses the Kankakee River at Aroma Park, IL.11/15/2011 Junior Hill posted |
Kenny posted six photos of the bridge.
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