Wednesday, April 5, 2017

1886+1912 Kentucky & Indiana (K&IT) Bridges over Ohio River at Louisville, KY

(Bridge Hunter, Bridge Hunter Old, no Historic Bridges, 3D Satellite, Street View (with coil cars))

K&IT = Kentucky & Indiana Terminal

1886 Bridge, Public Domain, from Bridge Hunter Old

A 1910 postcard view with a lower river level.

A 1910 postcard view that includes the approach with the vehicle ramp. There is a train on top.

Pete Zimmerman posted
The Ohio River circa 1906. Canal locks at Louisville, Kentucky. 8x10 inch dry plate glass negative, Detroit Publishing Company.
(unknown photographer)
[Note the 1866 bridge in the background.]

1912 Bridge, Public Domain, from Bridge Hunter
Probably built by Kentucky & Indiana Bridge & Railroad and Kentucky & Indiana Terminal Railroad. B&O went to it from the east on the Indiana side to connect to other railroads. Southern used it to cross the river between Kentucky to its route to St. Louis. Monon went to it from the north on the Indiana side to connect to other railroads. Canadian Pacific also has rights because it bought the Milwaukee Road, which was given trackage rights over the Monon route to Louisville as a concession, if I remember correctly, for the BN merger of NP and GN. (Or was it when L&N got the eastern part of C&EI?) (Milwaukee Road once had the longest route in USA from the Northwest Pacific to Louisville, KY. But the management did not properly pursue using their railroad assets.)

USACE, p270
 
Excell Marine posted, cropped
Excell Marine's M/V ELIZABETH ANN at Henderson, KY! 
📸credit: Tom Chapman

Dennis DeBruler commented on the above post
My first thought was the Trail/(Big4+B&O) Bridge. But the piers were not right. It appears to be the K&I Bridge.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/m4oZiHTnfGQzLPRd7

3D Satellite
Note that the swing span is on the north side of the river, but the current shipping channel is on the south side of the river. Bridge Hunter indicates the span was opened just twice. I wonder where the shipping channel was back when the river still had its wicket dams in this area. The span was locked down in 1955 because there is a 100-foot clearance above the pool level, and it is on the wrong side of the river for today's river traffic. Was it used because of smokestacks on steamboats during high river flows? About 50 feet of clearance is plenty for modern towboats and barge loads. (Update: the shipping canal was the Indiana/Indian Chute, and it was used until the McAlpine Dam replaced Dam #41 in the early 1960s. [DeBruler])

Jim Pearson Photography posted
Union Pacific 6808 and 2659 lead Norfolk Southern 224 off the K&I bridge out of Louisville, Kentucky as they head west over the Ohio River into New Albany, Indiana on the NS Southern East District on April 15th, 2023.
According to Wikipedia: The Kentucky & Indiana Bridge is one of the first multi modal bridges to cross the Ohio River. It is for both railway and common roadway purposes together. By federal, state, and local law railway and streetcar, wagon-way, and pedestrian modes of travel were intended by the City of New Albany, City of Louisville, State of Kentucky, State of Indiana, the United States Congress, and the bridge owners. 
The K & I Bridge connects Louisville, Kentucky to New Albany, Indiana. Constructed from 1881 to 1885 by the Kentucky and Indiana Bridge Company, the original K&I Bridge opened in 1886. It included a single standard gauge track and two wagon ways, allowing wagons and other animal powered vehicles to cross the Ohio River by a method other than ferry for the first time. At the time motorized vehicles were virtually nonexistent. 
On February 1, 1979, an overweight dump truck caused a small segment of the steel grate roadway on the bridge to sag about 1 foot (0.30 m). A quick survey promised to reopen the roadway, but automotive traffic was banned thereafter by the railroad.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic 3 Classic Drone, RAW, 24mm, f/2.8, 1/2500 sec, ISO 140.
George Herbig II: When the bridge was built I believe the train exited east and circled under the bridge to get to the west bound tracks on and to St. Louis.

Kenny Hart commented on George's comment
This is a section of a blueprint map of the K&IT Railroad from before 1930. The red arrow points to the loop you describe, which indeed did exist.

Jim Pearson Photography posted
Union Pacific 6808 and 2659 lead Norfolk Southern 224 over the K&I bridge out of Louisville, Kentucky as they head west over the Ohio River into New Albany, Indiana on the NS Southern East District on April 15th, 2023.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic 3 Classic Drone, RAW, 24mm, f/2.8, 1/2500 sec, ISO 130.
 
Michael C. Wells Photography posted
NS 7263 Crossing the Ohio River from New Albany, Indiana into Louisville, Kentucky - 2021
Leon Shahayda: Operated over that bridge many times. CSX ,Monon to Mitchell,and B&O to Washington,IN.
Leonard Davis: Bridge is known as the K&I Bridge. Built in 1923 I believe. At one time, vehicles used it to cross the river into and from New Albany.
Terry Dismore: Leonard Davis part of my driver's Ed "Final" was driving across that bridge and into Louisville. My dad told me he'd driving a Greyhound Bus across it many times. K&I closed the bridge to vehicular traffic in the late 1980s or early 1990s because an overweight dump truck caused one of the sections to drop a bit. It was repaired and the railroad still used it, I think.
J.B. Rail Photog shared

Carl Venzke posted
The Kentucky & Indiana Bridge approach, New Albany, Indiana, early 1900's.

Walter Carothers
THE CORNER OF MAIN AND VINCENNES STREET NEW ALBANY INDIANA
Sol E. Williams
All types of K&I related pics in this group if youd like to see and contribute.
J.B. Rail Photog shared
Tim Shanahan shared a post by Jay Mutchman
Old US 31w approach to Kentucky Indiana (K&I) Terminal Bridge, New Albany, Indiana. I remember seeing this Bridge as a kid in the early 1970s, but didn't cross it. I tried locating the Bridge several years later, unaware that 31w had been rerouted due to damage to the Bridge caused by an overweight dump truck a few years prior. The vintage sign and control tower are gone since the vehicle lanes were abandoned.
 
Michael Matalis posted
From back on 6/24/80. a northbound Milwaukee Road freight crosses the Ohio River at New Albany IN with FP45 #3 doing the honors.
— in New Albany, IN.
Michael Matalis shared
[The old road crossing is on the left.]
 
David Janin posted
Set if GP 20s April 1973 Louisville Kentucky 
Says the first train across the Kentucky and Indiana division  Milwaukee road photo.
Dennis DeBruler: The K&I Bridge, https://maps.app.goo.gl/hZpQDvGwoDzVLWZh8

The above photo was the Indiana (northern) end of the bridge.
Trail View, Sep 2014
The pier on the right is for I-64.

Interactive CSX System Map
I have seen contemporary photos of CSX doing street running in New Albany, IN. Most of it is on 15th Street. But the bridge approach still launches from Main Street on Vincennes Street. According to the 2005 SPV Map, CSX and CP still use the L&N/Monon route between Bedford, IN and this bridge. The CSX interactive map does show that it still operates that Monon remnant.

Robert Brummett posted
A train passes over the Ohio River using the old K&I (Kentucky and Indiana) RR bridge in New Albany. Photo by John Dattilo

Robert Williams posted

Bill Stroud posted
Original K&I RR Bridge Late 1890s
Bill Stroud K&ITRR Photo
Bill Stroud posted
The building of the New K&IT RR bridge from New Albany note the original behind it. 1910-1912 photo c/o Bob Lawson.
Bill Stroud posted
Horses & Wagon just crossed the original K&ITRR birdge in New Albany c1910-1912. Photo from K&ITRR c/o Bob Lawson.
Bill Stroud posted
Steam Shovel at work on the K&IT RR bridge c.1910-1912. I wonder if it is on the Indiana side or Kentucky side? Mike Mulligan and His Steam Shovel comes to mind in this picture. No Seam Shovels Wanted... Is it a Marion shovel or a Bucyrus? photo c/o Bob Lawson K&IT RR
Bill Stroud posted two photos with the comment: "The original K&IT RR Bridge that opened in 1886. These photos were taken around 1910-1912"
James Deeds Who else besides me is old enough to remember driving across this bridge?
Bill Stroud You did not drive over this bridge it was replaced with the current K&IT RR bridge in 1912.
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Bill Stroud posted three photos with the comment: "Photos of the old K&IT RR bridge finished in 1886 being dismantled after the new bridge had replaced it, pictures circa 1912. All photos are c/o Bob Lawson."
Bill Stroud The bridge that stands today is the second K&IT RR Bridge. Similarly the Pennsylvania 14th street bridge, and the big four bridge are in their second life they were rebuilt to handle larger locomotives, freight, and increased volume.
David Palmer What river is it going over?
Bill Stroud Kentucky & Indiana Terminal Railroad Bridge crosses the Ohio river between New Albany Indiana and Louisville (Portland) Kentucky.
Monon, B&O, and Southern Railway used and owned the K&IT RR bridge. There were 4 different RR depots in New Albany and an interurban depot (Daisy Depot).
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Forgotten Railways, Roads & Places posted,  William Alden, 2006, Wikipedia Commons.
The Kentucky & Indiana Terminal Bridge connects Louisville, KY with New Albany, IN, crossing the Ohio River. The bridge was first proposed in 1881 as a multimodal project, which would allow for railroad, streetcar, vehicle, and pedestrians to cross the river.
"The bridge was built from 1883 to 1886 by the Kentucky and Indiana Bridge Company. K&I also operated the “Daisy Line,” a steam commuter train service, which ran from downtown Louisville along the Portland Canal and across the bridge to New Albany. The line was electrified in 1893, and was notably the first steam to electric conversion in the United States. It was acquired by its three user railroads (B&O, Monon, and Southern) by 1900 and the name changed to “Kentucky & Indiana Bridge and Railroad Company”. In 1907, the K&I Bridge and Railroad Company, including the “Daisy Line” service, was sold to the Louisville & Northern Railway and Light Co. and retired from the commuter rail business. Early the following year, the commuter line and its stations were abandoned in support of streetcar tracks, which became part of the Louisville trolley service. However, the last streetcar crossed the K&I Bridge in 1948." (Cahal 2010; Castner 2001)
A dump truck accident in 1979 would close the bridge off to automobile traffic, making it strictly a railroad bridge. Today, the bridge remains a vital railroad bridge, with proposals to reopen the bridge for pedestrian traffic as well. Norfolk Southern, the owner of the bridge today, opposes the proposal, citing increased liability concerns.
History: https://transportation.ky.gov/…/Winchester%20Report%20Compl…
Image: William Alden, 2006, Wikipedia Commons.

AJ Grigg shared
Tommy Graham The round column is the main support for the swing span - flat topped truss, don't know what the wall would be...
Steve Barker I think that might be a barge up against the columns. It’s not on google earth. If it’s apart of the bridge I would gate to think of the pressure of the water pushing on it in a flood.
Dennis DeBruler Now that you mention it, it does look like we are seeing the bottom of a barge that is on its side.

J.B. Rail Photog posted
07/12/2021 - NS 224 crosses the K&IT Terminal Bridge back to Louisville, KY, to the NS Youngtown Yard to hook back up to their train passing up NS 167 as the tail end is still on the bridge.

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Comments on J.B.'s post
 
J.B. Rail Photog posted
07/28/2021 - NS 125 with the 8102 Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR) ES44AC Norfolk Southern Heritage Unit approaches the K&IT Bridge at New Albany, IN, crossing the Ohio River.
J.B. Rail Photog shared

1 of 16 photos posted by J.B. Rail Photog
Here are several angles of the K&IT railroad bridge in Louisville, KY.  Today owned by the Norfolk Southern Corp.
Dennis DeBruler: You also caught an upbound tow entering the McAlpine Lock.
J.B. Rail Photog shared
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Yet another angle on the south (lock) side of the bridge.
Jim Pearson Photography posted
Union Pacific 6808 and 2659 lead Norfolk Southern 224 across the K&I bridge out of Louisville, Kentucky as they head west over the Ohio River into New Albany, Indiana on the NS Southern East District on April 15th, 2023, with downtown Louisville, Ky in the background.
According to Wikipedia: The Kentucky & Indiana Bridge is one of the first multi modal bridges to cross the Ohio River. It is for both railway and common roadway purposes together. By federal, state, and local law railway and streetcar, wagon-way, and pedestrian modes of travel were intended by the City of New Albany, City of Louisville, State of Kentucky, State of Indiana, the United States Congress, and the bridge owners. 
The K & I Bridge connects Louisville, Kentucky to New Albany, Indiana. Constructed from 1881 to 1885 by the Kentucky and Indiana Bridge Company, the original K&I Bridge opened in 1886. It included a single standard gauge track and two wagon ways, allowing wagons and other animal powered vehicles to cross the Ohio River by a method other than ferry for the first time. At the time motorized vehicles were virtually nonexistent. 
Tech Info: DJI Mavic 3 Classic Drone, RAW, 24mm, f/2.8, 1/2500 sec, ISO 120.
Kevin William Jones: What abandoned line went over the river in louisville ky into Indiana.
Dennis DeBruler: Kevin William Jones (L&N+Milwaukee)/Monon using this bridge. The Big Four used the bridge that now has a trail.
William Dolle: The old grated traffic bridge still used by NS rail & bridge maintainers.
Rick Stare: Interesting. So it sounds like the original bridge was intended to be multi modal, but this bridge appears to be rail only? Great photo!

Dennis DeBruler commented on Rick's comment
The traffic part is cantileverd on both sides of the bridge. As William Dolle's comment indicates, MoW vehicles still use the traffic part. This photo by Jim is a good view of those roadways.
https://fineartamerica.com/.../norfolk-southern-224-over...

Robert Williams posted
K&IT RR Bridge Louisville, Ky

(new window) Coverage of train traffic for this bridge starts at 9:17. He is on the Kentucky side of the bridge. He starts describing the bridge at 18:18.The first part of this video is of the Louisville & Indiana/Pennsy (14th Street) Bridge. It is about 100' above the river.

The swing span was permanently locked down in 1955.
Streenshot

A video of 1950s trains in New Albany, IN. There was a concentration of trains because four railroads converged to use this bridge.




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