Friday, April 7, 2017

1870+1919 Louisville & Indiana/CSX/Pennsy (14th Street) Bridge over the Ohio River at Louisville, KY

(1870 Bridge Hunter1919 Bridge HunterSatellite)

My photos of the the Falls of the Ohio that are downstream of this bridge have been moved to McAline Dam.

USACE photo of the day

While studying the Louisville and Portland Canal, I came across these photos of this bridge.
USACE, p88

USACE, p136

USACE, p203

USACE, p212

20150508 1029, lookingSsoutheast from the Ohio Scenic Byway
Rock showing fossils by the sidewalk at the rest stop
At a rest stop along I-65 on my way to Louisville, KY, I saw a sign that showed how to get to the interpretive center for the Fossils at Falls of the Ohio. So I found this bridge as a happy accident on my way to the interpretive center.

On the north end is the largest bridge abutment I remember seeing. In this case, I should have waited for a car to come by to give some scale to that structure. In Bridge Hunter, J.P. did take several photos of this structure including one with a backhoe for scale.
Photo from Bridge Hunter
The current 1919 bridge evidently reused the cut-stone piers of the 1870 bridge because the first large through truss is over the old "Indiana Chute." Because of the large truss in the middle of the river, there used to be another "chute." The long spans were retained in 1919 because the dam had yet to be built. Obviously, neither of these shipping lanes are used today.
Photo from Bridge Hunter
The third truss that we can barely see peaking out above the trees in the first photo is the lift bridge that spans the canal that used to be spanned by this swing bridge. The first canal to bypass the rapids here was built 1825-30. "It was 1.9 miles long, 64 feet wide and had a total lift of 26 feet with a three flight lock system." [Sign at Falls of the Ohio Interpretive Center]
Is Anand shared Marco Delgado's post

Mitch Carl posted
14th St. Railroad Bridge, Louisville, KY

Tom's photo posted by Ron of the L&N engines also caught the lift and control towers. To my surprise, the control tower still exists.
Ron Flanary posted
As I was looking through the L&NHS image files late last night (trying to find something else, of course), I noticed this shot and pulled it up for a closer inspection. This was taken at Louisville, KY on April 24, 1965 by Tom Smart. The original slide is part of the Dan Dover collection, and Dan was kind enough to share this one as well as a large number of other L&N shots with the L&NHS for scanning. This is a rather unusual occurrence. The every-other-day Chicago-Miami "South Wind" was normally powered by pooled Atlantic Coast Line or Pennsy E-units. The L&N only provided motive power in the case of an emergency (engine trouble, for example). The previous day, either the ACL or Pennsy units handling the northbound train had problems on the L&N portion between Montgomery and Louisville, so an E7-E6 duo replace them. Now, L&N Es 771-760 are back from the Windy City with the southbound "Wind." The train is curving off Pennsy's Ohio River lift bridge at Clagg Tower. Next stop: Union Station. L&N's mechanical wizards at South Louisville have probably fixed whatever was wrong with the Pennsy or ACL power, so the two L&N units will be swapped out during the station stop.
Javid Beykzadeh posted
14th Street Bridge in Louisville, KY.

J.B. Rail Photog posted
The LIRC (L&I) Bridge spanning the Ohio River between Louisville, KY, and Southern Indiana.  Here's Clagg Tower that controls the bridge's up and down movement.

Javid Beykzadeh shared
Dennis DeBruler: Thanks for providing the name of the tower.

William Alden Flickr a1c050 (CC BY_SA)

William Alden Flickr 88b083 (CC BY_SA)

William Alden Flickr 88c030 (CC BY_SA)
[William's comments describe the bridge.]

William Alden Flickr 88c346 (CC BY_SA)
[William's comments explains why a couple of boats are in a tow. And this view catches much of the rest of the bridge.]
LC-DIG-highsm- 63902
Credit line: Photographs in the Carol M. Highsmith Archive, Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division.
Carol M. Highsmith's photographs are in the public domain.
David Gulden posted
Mark Fox posted, cropped
This should be easy, name the bridge..
Timothy Hudgins: I was going to say “The bridge you have to call every 3 minutes to make sure they are actually opening like they said they were, so that they can tell you they are running a train as you enter the forebay s/b”... but it seemed a bit long winded... so I’ll stick with L&I in Louisville

J.B. Rail Photog added
08/20/2021 - I ventured out on a mission to catch at least one train crossing the Louisville & Indiana Railroad line after coming off the vertical lift bridge at Clagg Tower in Louisville, KY.  Here is CSX Q688-20 with a single CM44 7005 leading up front and there was a DPU in the middle with a 10,000 train in tow heading northbound.
Rick Smith
I could be dead wrong, but I believe this vertical-lift bridge is the only one in the state of Kentucky. I used to ride the "South Wind" across this thing, way-way back.
Tennessee has two remaining, both for rail, after one was transported to Bridgeport AL some 40 yrs ago.
Thanks for allowing public comments.
[Some comments discuss the lift bridges that exist in KY, TN and AL.]

J.B. Rail Photog shared
J.B. Rail Photog shared
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J.B. Rail Photog added
08/20/2021 - CSX Y129-20 with a GP40-2 along with a road slug and along with a GP38-3 crosses at Clagg Tower northbound on the Louisville & Indiana Railroad northbound.  Their train goes to Nabb Branch where they interchange and drop at Watson.

Mark Fox commented on Kevin's post

J.B. Rail Photog posted
01/22/2021 - CSX Q688-22 makes it way slowly across the massive LIRC Bridge from Louisville, KY, crossing into Clarksville, IN.

Javid Beykzadeh shared

Jim Griffith's third photo in a posting of six photos
John Eagan Still a manned tower at the south end in Louisville where the L&I connects to the PAL and CSX
[This photo framing is comparable to mine at the top. But the river was much higher when Jim visited this area than it was when I was there. More on the water levels later.]

Jim Griffith's forth photo in a posting
[I chose Jim's third photo because it almost exactly matches my photo at the top giving you an A/B comparison of the level of the lower pool. I include this photo because it shows the water is high enough to spill over the dam wall. Note the size of the debris backlog created by the dam wall. All five Tainter gates were probably wide open when Jim took this view.]

The gated dam that we see today was not built until the 1960s when the 1200'x110' lock was added. The short part of the L-shaped dam that was built in the 1920s had wicker gates and tows still used the Indiana/Indian Chute when the river was high. [DeBruler]
Bill Stroud posted
Towboat vs Pennsylvania RR Bridge (14th Street Bridge)
Bill Stroud the bridge won..
A crash between a barge and a stationary object (e.g. bridge) is an allision.]

Here is another older photo showing a tow using the Indiana Chute.
USACE, p239

Bill Kalkman posted
In this view from the shoreline of the Ohio River, below the Falls of the Ohio Interpretive Center, your looking at the Louisville & Indiana Railroad's crossing of the river from Clarksville to Louisville. 6:52PM on 5-23-18 in Clarksville, IN.
Tom Bedwell posted
There is a third RR indicated in this one.
Justin Gillespie IC’s Central Station in Louisville.
Tom Bedwell IC was a tenant in the Station, but it isn’t named for that RR. Think out in the water.
Justin Gillespie The IC did own the station, of course that’s the PRR bridge.

Tom Bedwell posted
PRR train on the bridge over the Ohio River in Louisville. Taken from Louisville Central Station. Wish I had had a nice Nikon!!!
I never noticed how massive the members in the approach spans are until I saw this photo.
Bill Neill shared

JB Rial Photog added
07/08/2019 - LIRC brings run through NS 60P loaded potash train across the 14th Street Bridge into Clarksville, IN, with a trio of Canadian Pacific GEs. They went to their yard in Jeffersonville, IN, and took one engine off and took the train off the Nabb Branch to the Port of Jeffersonville to Consolidated Grain and Barge.
Charles Buccola Potash is a potassium-rich salt that is mined from underground deposits formed from evaporated sea beds millions of years ago. Potassium is an essential element for all plant, animal and human life. The term "potash" refers to a group of potassium (K) bearing minerals and chemicals. Commonly used in fertilizer.
Marc Dufour commented on Bill's share
Looks like an interesting bridge…

J.B. Rail Photog added
02/03/2020 - CSX Q504-03 mixed freight heads northbound as it crosses the Fourteenth Street Bridge as seen from Clarksville, IN, after coming onto Louisville and Indiana Railroad trackage before getting onto the bridge back in Louisville, KY. According to Wikipedia this truss drawbridge was completed in 1870 and was originally operated by the Pennsylvania Railroad. The draw portion of the bridge is a vertical-lift span, built in about 1918 in place of a swing span. It's also known as the Ohio Falls Bridge, Pennsylvania Railroad Bridge, Conrail Railroad Bridge or Louisville and Indiana (L&I) Bridge.
Steve Fry Is the draw portion still in use? How often is it opened?
Chuck Wilson It stays open or raised for river barge traffic and lowers only when a train needs to pass. The control tower is occupied 24 hours a day.
Robert Carter I believe the control comes from adjacent Clagg Tower, the last remaining interlocking tower in Kentucky.

Javid Beykzadeh shared
Craig Cloud Javid Beykzadeh L&I dispatch from there?
Javid Beykzadeh Craig they do have a person in the tower but I'm not sure if they dispatch anyone there. Their main dispatcher is at their yard in Jeffersonville.

J.B. Rail Photog added
03/09/2021 - CSX Q576-08 with CSX 50 leading crosses the mighty Ohio River on the LIRC into Clarksville, IN, as they come out of Louisville, KY, northbound.
Dan Gurley shared
J.B. Rail Photog shared

Dennis DeBruler commented on Dan's share
The river is running heavy. The lower pool is almost as high as the upper pool. I see it was even higher a few days earlier.

The river is continuing to run high during the spring of 2021. But the hydrologic chart shows it was at just 31'.
J.B. Rail Photog added
05/14/2021 - CSX Y129-14 with a slug set and 47 cars crosses the LIRC between Louisville, KY, and Clarksville, IN, northbound to go work at the Nabb Branch in Jeffersonville, IN.
J.B. Rail Photog shared
J.B. Rail Photog shared
Jon Roberts: When the I-64 bridge from Louisville to New Albany was closed months and months for emergency repairs this bridge was used to shuttle people plus the old RR bridge a mile north was made into a pedestrian bridge. It finally forced the decades delayed I-265 bridge to be built. My father-in-law was an L&N RR cop at Strawberry Yards before being sent to Owensboro.
J.B. also shows us what it looks like when the river is running low.
J.B. Rail Photog added
08/13/2021 - CSX Q688-13 crosses the mighty Ohio River across the 14th Street Bridge on the Louisville and Indiana Railroad line northbound into Clarksville, IN.  This is my first time taking the drone up over here and definitely like the perspective better than from the ground here because of the elevation you can get from a drone.
J.B. Rail Photog shared
Don Traut: The bridge was there before the dam. If you look at the bridge there are a couple "channel" spans to allow steamboat passage back when they would run the falls of the Ohio when the water was high enough.
Dennis DeBruler: Your previous shots that I have seen show the river running high. It is interesting to see what it looks like when it is running low.
[According to a comment, the train is headed to the Avon Yard in Indianapolis.]
J.B. Rail Photog shared
Hal Johns: Clagg tower operator (former Conrail) on the Kentucky side of the Ohio River operated the lift bridge.
Hal Johns: Btw - this was the longest bridge on all of Conrail. Great aerial photo.

J.B. Rail Photog added
08/13/2021 - Here is another view of the 14th Street bridge that CSX Q688-13 crossed northbound into Clarksville, IN, coming from Louisville, KY.  As you can see this was double tracked at one time.  I thought I'd share this view for those who might be interested.

J.B. Rail Photog shared
Another view showing the tracks.
Mark Brinck: PRR, PC, Conrail, now L&I. Other end is the Vertical lift span over the lock.

J.B. Rail Photog added
04/03/2018 - Here's one from the dark side archives.  A northbound CSX mixed freight approaching Clagg Tower in Louisville, KY, which controls the lift bridge on the Louisville and Indiana Railroad that crosses an Ohio River canal used for barge and other river traffic.  Originally this bridge was built by PRR and then Conrail.  Today it's owned and operated by the Louisville and Indiana Railroad.  I really like the grimminess of this photo with the engines notching up spitting out extra smoke out of the exhausts and a rusty bridge in the shadows.

J.B. Rail Photog shared
J.B. Rail Photog shared

KevandSus Dickman
The Pennsylvania or 14th St bridge spanning the Ohio river from Clarksville, In to Louisville, Ky. Built in the 1800's and still in use today. She is almost a mile long.
Bruce B. Reynolds: The bridge was completely rebuilt in the 1916-1919 period, and the picture shows that structure.
KevandSus Dickman: Bruce B. Reynolds I believe the piers are the originals but yes my picture is of the updated version.

Joe Dockrill shared
[I added the "p136" photo above as a comment.]

J.B. Rail Photog added
He is flying that drone rather far over the river.

(new window) A nice drone overview, followed by a tripod shot of a CSX northbound train, then drone footage of that train, then a tripod shot of the DPU crossing the lift span and then back to a drone shot to follow the DPU across the bridge. At 4:28 you can see that there is little water in the Falls of Ohio. At 8:46 is a timelapse of the bridge going up. At 9:17, he covers the Kentucky & Indiana Bridge. At 24:52, he ends the video with drone footage of the bridge.

JB Rail Photog caught a CSX auto train on the Indiana side. I wonder if the train is full of Ford vehicles made at the Louisville plant.

JB Rail Photog caught a CSX inspection train on the lift span.

JB Rail Photog took 8 photos of a CSX train going geographically north.

JB Rail Photog aerial view

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