Showing posts with label rrCaNW. Show all posts
Showing posts with label rrCaNW. Show all posts

Friday, June 26, 2026

C&NW Division Street and Carpenter Street Towers

Division Street: (Satellite, the elevated foundation has been repurposed.)
Carpenter Street: (Satellite)

John Martin posted two images with the comment: "Interesting stuff I stumbled across about the two former control towers at CNW's Erie St. yard, Division St. and Carpenter St. As of March 1959 Carpenter disappeared from the CNW track chart but Division St. was still there. Anyone have a photo of either tower? Here is what I have: two pages from an article appearing in Signal Engineer Journal June 1911 and the CNW Harvard track chart showing Division St. Tower."
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Bob Lalich commented on John's post
Here are photos of the towers from a GRS publication, which I am unable to locate at the moment. Note that Carpenter St Tower was actually located on Sangamon St, but there already was a Sangamon St Tower which controlled the entrance to the Chicago St Engine Terminal and Erie St Yard.

Bob Lalich commented on John's post

John Martin posted
More on CNW Division St. and Carpenter St. towers from Signal Engineering publication showing plans. Still haven't found any photos of them yet but the search goes on.

1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP


Sunday, June 7, 2026

1872+1887+1916 UP Bridges over Missouri River at Omaha, NE

1872: (no Archived Bridge Hunter; Bridge Hunter)

1872:
BridgeHunter_1872

1887:
BridgeHunter_1887

1916:
Street View, Jun 2021

The UP Big Boy crossing the bridge in 2026 taught me that I had yet to write notes for this significant bridge.
Facebook Reel

The two short trusses at the end indicate that this photo was taken from the Iowa side. This catches 3 of the 4 long spans.
2015 photo by John Marvig via BridgeHunter_1916

I wonder how often they have to remove debris from the top of the trail protector.
2015 photo by John Marvig via BridgeHunter_1916

John uploaded a lot of detailed shots on BridgeHunter_1916. I note these photos because they clearly show that the design is a transition between pin-connected and riveted gusset plates.
2015 photo by John Marvig via BridgeHunter_1916

2015 photo by John Marvig via BridgeHunter_1916

2015 photo by John Marvig via BridgeHunter_1916

1956/68 Omaha North and South Quads @ 24,000

After crossing the bridge, the Big Boy train soon turned North to take the former-C&NW route to Chicago.
UP_tracker

Wednesday, April 1, 2026

C&NW over GM&O Bridge north of Nilwood, IL

(no Bridge Hunter; no Historic Bridges; Satellite)

This bridge is another example that C&NW liked the otherwise rather rare double lattice bridge design.

The GM&O and what's left of the C&NW are now owned by UP.

Richard Koenig posted two photos with the comment:
Slingshot
Here’s a northbound Slingshot on the historical Alton (GM&O/ICG). This was designed to be a fast TOFC train between St. Louis and Chicago. I believe every time I saw this train it was powered by a single GM&O GP35—either in the black and white of the GM&O or new orange and white of the ICG, like this one.
The location is at a spot where the Chicago & North Western flies over—between Girard and Nilwood, in central Illinois.
Two images by Richard Koenig; taken May 21st 1977.
Bill Edrington: This location is known as Green Ridge. The CNW flew over the GM&O and Illinois Terminal main lines as well as Illinois Route 4 here. History repeats itself here, because when the UP abandoned the former CNW line between Green Ridge and Barr (near Athens), it reinstated a long-abandoned connection between the ex-CNW and ex-GM&O lines to allow coal trains from Monterey No. 1 Mine (now Shay Mine) to move north via Springfield. When the CNW’s coal mining subsidiary, Superior Coal Company, first sank coal mines around Benld (at Eagarville, Mt. Clare and Wilsonville) in the early 1900s, the CNW formed and built the Macoupin County Railway to connect those mines with GM&O predecessor Chicago & Alton at Green Ridge. The C&A handled the coal from Green Ridge north to Chicago or Peoria, where it was handed off to the CNW. After a few years of that operation, however, the CNW became dissatisfied with the C&A’s service and built its own line south from Peoria to Green Ridge (about 1913-1914, as I recall), and merged the Macoupin County Railway into the CNW. That’s when the flyover bridges at Green Ridge were constructed.
David Thompson: Thanks for sharing , having family who lived near Towanda growing up in the 1980's these where the only freights that I saw on a regular basis, typically a couple times a day. This would have to be confirmed, but I believe ICG had a ramp in Bloomington that Caterpillar would truck over trailers to send up to Chicago or down to St. Louis.. This seems like a market the big guys have just thrown in the towel. With the truck driver shortages it seems like it would work today but who am I to know.
David Jordan: David Thompson Caterpillar business went to a distribution center in Memphis. The Bloomington ramp opened November 19, 1980 with shippers like Caterpillar in mind, and replaced ICG's use of the P&PU-served ramp at Creve Coeur.
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Bill Crisp commented on Richard's post
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Bill Crisp commented on Richard's post

One can still see the abutment as well as the embankment.
Street View, Dec 2015

It continues to amaze me how quickly nature takes over.
Street View, Jun 2024

1931/76 Carlinville Quad @ 62,500

Monday, February 9, 2026

1886 Trail/C&NW Bridge over Pecatonica River near Ridott, IL

(Archived Bridge Hunter was broke; Bridge Hunter; no Historic Bridges; Satellite)

2015 photo by John Marvig via BridgeHunter

2015 photo by John Marvig via BridgeHunter

Facebook Reel

Same reel

For those who are bored of bridge photos, you can watch her dance.
Same Reel

Sunday, February 8, 2026

Abandoned/C&NW Bridge over Lick Creek

(Archived Bridge Hunter; Bridge Hunter; Historic Bridges; Satellite)

The trusses are from a bridge built in 1883. The trusses were moved here in 1921. The bridge was abandoned in 1997. [ArchivedBidgeHunter]

Street View, May 2012

I thought I saw pins in the bottom cord in the view above. But I see rivets in this photo. HistoricBridges and John Marvig describe this bridge as "an extremely old surviving example of a rivet-connected truss bridge."
HistoricBridges

"This bridge was built 1883 at Geneva, IL as Spans A&D of Bridge #66; these spans were moved here in 1921. I would assume the builder is Alden & Lassig, but I cannot confirm at this time. From what we have figured out, the original Geneva bridge had three truss lines on four spans (two long spans and two short spans).  The outer truss lines were the "light" lines, the inner truss line between the two tracks was the "heavy" line.  It seems that the two short/heavy lines were sent to Spring Creek, and the two heavy/long lines were sent to Lick Creek, along with the four light/short and four light/long truss lines.  These were double trussed to make them stronger. The Lick Creek bridge has three spans, and the north and south spans are the "light" trusses, which were double trussed.  The middle span is the "heavy" truss, which explains why it uses a conventional layout.  I am still trying to figure out if the "heavy" trusses are original to the 1883 bridge, or were added later." [John Marvig via HistoricBridges]

We can more clearly see the use of rivets in this photo.
2015 photo by Steve Conro via BridgeHunter

Facebook Reel

Sunday, November 16, 2025

1865 D Street under C&NW at Mendota is the oldest bridge in MN

(no Bridge Hunter; no Historic Bridges; Satellite, the trail and the abandoned C&NW are buried under the tree canopy.)

Scott Berglund posted
I took this photo a few days ago while my son and I were exploring the area across the river from Fort Snelling State Park.
This is the Sibley Ferry Stone Arch Bridge, a historic railroad bridge built in 1864–65. It’s one of Minnesota’s oldest surviving railroad bridges and now serves as a scenic walking path.
CJ Bahan: It is in-fact THE oldest bridge in Minnesota..
Craig Cilley: D Street. Entrance to some great fat biking. Just be aware of the muddy trails from the Mendota springs.
Laura Duffey: This bridge is also a trail entrance to Fort Snelling State Park (many people may not realize that the park also includes land on the south side of the Minnesota River).
The train track above it was removed in the 1950s.
Pat Cosgrove: Laura Duffey There are two bridges. One has an active track going over it.
Laura Duffey: Pat Cosgrove Correct. The stone bridge had the old, removed track. The new metal tunnel bridge with the active track (and which you can barely see in your photo) replaced an older wooden bridge which was removed about 20 years ago. Fun fact: if you stomp your feet hard against the ground the new metal tunnel vibrates sound in a really cool way. I feel compelled to do that every time I go through it

I used this photo on Google Maps to confirm that I found the correct location.
Ben Zvan, Aug 2013

This view shows the "metal tunnel" mentioned by Laura above.
Street View, May 2023

Caleb Spooner commented on Scott's post
This tunnel was how you got to the old river road, which used to go out on the (then) peninsula which is (now) Picnic Island. The main channel used to go around that peninsula but it was tight curves and hard for boats to navigate. That, and the floods in the early '60's caused the Army Corp of Engineers to cut a new channel across the entire Mendota side, cutting off the peninsula and making it a part of the western shore, where it's now known as Picnic Island. The old channel is now an oxbow lake. There used to be businesses like boat rentals and the River Road Club, kinda where Mpls Rock & Roll started. There was a railroad line that crossed it and a swing bridge that ran trains up along the western side to Minnehaha Falls. All of this is gone now, the businesses, the old River Road, map changed forever. If you look at google maps you can see the old channel around Picnic Island and the new channel that cut it all off from the Mendota side. Hard to believe they could move that much earth! Here is an aerial pic of the area back in 1937 with the tunnel marked.

Caleb Spooner commented on Scott's post
And here's the aerial pic from 1970, with the new channel, tunnel marked.

1967/69 St Paul West Quad @ 24,000

Tuesday, December 10, 2024

1881+1913,1963 UP/C&NW/Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis and Omaha Bridge over St. Croix River at Hudson, WI

1913: (Archived Bridge Hunter; Historic BridgesSatellite)

Mark Boettcher, Sep 2020

Mark Boettcher via HistoricBridges
In the late 1800s, much of the original bridge was filled in so that what is left is 568' (173m) long with a main span of 314' (96m).

"This bridge is strengthened and electrified in 1963." [BridgeHunter_1913]


Saturday, October 12, 2024

Trail/CGW overpasses for UP/C&NW and Grace Street in Lombard, IL

Grace: (Satellite)
UP/C&NW: (Satellite)

Rick Burn posted
Chicago Great Western westbound in January 1965 Grace Street Lombard IL

Dennis DeBruler commented on Rick's post
I wonder who paid for the new bridges for the Great Western Trail over Grace Street on the left and UP/C&NW on the right.
 https://maps.app.goo.gl/j7gAJmRJjPmHRiKN7
Mark Petersen: Dennis DeBruler You did as a taxpayer.

They put some sharp curves in the trail so that they could build shorter bridges.
Satellite

I got an old aerial photo to confirm that the CGW went straight over the C&NW. That is why the bridge in Rick's photo is so long for an overpass. I discovered that the route for St. Charles Road has been significantly changed.
1939 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

Friday, September 6, 2024

UP/C&NW Bridge over Cedar River in Cedar Rapids, IA

(Archived Bridge Hunter3D Satellite)

Steven J. Brown posted
Union Pacific 3985 at Cedar Rapids, Iowa - June 18, 2002.

Street View

Marty Bernard posted four images with the comment:
Trains on the C&NW Gauntlet Bridge over the Cedar River, Iowa
C&NW trains crossing the Gauntlet Bridge over the Cedar River at Cedar Rapids, IA on June 29 and Aug. 11, 1979.  The diagram shows how the double track mainline (left) becomes narrow (right) to go over the bridge.  For details see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauntlet_track
Bill Kuba photos, Iowa Chapter NRHS collection
𝙉𝙊𝙏𝙀: UP has made it into a double track bridge which can easily be seen south of town on a Google Map.
John Markl: Gauntlet or Gantlet?
Jon Roma: John Markl, both spellings are accepted.
Steven W Panek: John Markl. I've always referred this as a gauntlet.
Marty Bernard shared
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Patrick Hansen posted
My friend gave me this picture long time ago as he know I like C&NW. if I remember correctly C&NW train got derailed at Cedar River in Cedar Rapids.
Dave Kroeger: This the famous Christmas Day derailment of 1978 on the Cedar River Bridge. Either train 250 or 252 was involved. I remember going to see the cleanup as they used the Clinton and Marshalltown big hooks to remove the rubble.
Dennis A. Wilson: Made it a double track in 2002.
Greg Koenes: They had another one on that bridge a couple of years after they double tracked it

Big Boy 2026:
11:55 video @ 0:27
Big Boy 4014 Crosses the Mississippi River to Chicago!! (Coast to Coast Tour)

Jerry Jackson posted
©Johnny Hansen Photography
During a beautiful and sunny morning, people from all over the place scattered about Union Pacific’s Clinton Subdivision in eastern Iowa to get a view of Union Pacific’s Big Boy 4014 rolling on through. Beginning my chase for the day on the east side of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, we see the Big Boy crossing the Cedar River after departing Beverley Yard on the other side of town. From Cedar Rapids, on this leg of the trip it is enroute to West Chicago, Illinois for its next displaying the following day, and then will continue its journey eastward. The Big Boy is currently on a big tour to celebrate America’s 250th Anniversary, and at this time is enroute to the East Coast for the rest of its busy tour.
📍Cedar Rapids, Iowa
🗓️Photo Date: June 2, 2026. See less
— in Cedar Rapids, IA.