Showing posts with label towerSand. Show all posts
Showing posts with label towerSand. Show all posts

Friday, December 14, 2018

Steam Locomotive Servicing Towers: Coal, Water and Sand

Whenever I see a photo of an existing coaling tower posted, I try hard to locate it. I see I currently have 139 postings labeled with "towerCoal" in my towns blog. I'm amazed by the variety of the designs. Even though a lot of them were made by the same manufacture, there seems to have been little effort in standardizing the designs. Even though the towers have been unused for over a half-century, many of them still stand because they were constructed with reinforced concrete.

See Skip Hoist for more photos of coaling towers.

Dennis DeBruler, Gillman, IL
Most of the coal towers I have seen have been stripped of  their wood and metal parts. So sometimes it is hard to imagine what they used to look like. For example, these towers north of Gillman, IL looked quite differently when they were being used (see below).

The comments for this posting taught me about some coaling towers I had not heard of before, some of which still had metal parts. I include some of the existing towers with metal still on them at the end of these notes because they are so rare.
pinimg, Gillman, IL

But the motivation for this posting is the comments by Allan MacDonald and Brian Westhouse that taught me that these towers also stored sand. And some of them also stored water. Note that a diesel, as well as a tender, are parked at Gillman's towers above. That indicates the tower contains sand as well as coal. Like steam locomotives, diesels use sand for extra traction.
Dennis DeBruler
Special sand towers, along with huge diesel fuel tanks, have been developed for the facilities that service diesel engines.
Dennis Corso commented on a posting
Collinwood Yard. NYC on the East side of Cleveland
George L Hoppert It stood just out infront of the roundhouse but could be entered by a laborenth of track from the mains. Brought loaded coal cars through the tunnel on the far riht side to dump the coal into the pit below. they didn't fill or cover the pit for decades after they stopped using it . It was filled with black water to the top of the pit. Many trainman fell into the water filed pit while taking a short cut while switching the ajacent tracks. The elevator is just to the left of the pit.George L Hoppert Dennis Corso I was firing a job, and I got out to help with a move. I was going to take a shortcut through the pit. It was black flat and level just like all the rest of the area. if it wasn't for an old crusty brakeman , I would have gone in.
[This was on the mainline between Chicago and NYC, and it is the largest of which I remember seeing a photo.]

I feature another NYC coaling tower on their Water Level Route because it had four small silos for passenger train coal and one big one for freight train coal. "The coal for passenger trains was more refined egg-sized for a cleaner more efficient burn consumption." [comment by Philip A. Edwards]
Dennis DeBruler

Fernando Luna posted four photos with the comment:
COALING TOWERS;
Some of the last towers ever built were from reinforced concrete and stood hundreds of feet tall. Today, of course, the structure's purpose has long since ended.
However, several of the last towers constructed were so well built that several still stand to this day, over a half-century since they were last used! Until the 20th century virtually all steam locomotives coal as their primary fuel source (although very early locomotive designs, like 4-4-0 Americans used wood) with large tenders of water to produce the necessary steam.
The workings of a coaling towers are relatively simple. They were always gravity fed with the steam locomotive sitting below or nearby (if the tower employed chutes) and an operator would feed coal into the tender until it was topped off.
To refill the towers they usually had a staging track or an area where loaded hopper cars could be unloaded and a pulley/belt driven system would pick up the coal and load the bin.
Early systems were rudimentary using straight chain and pulley buckets but later systems used conveyor belts to efficiently load the coaling towers.
At their peak coaling towers were impressive structures with the develop of bigger enines ,standing multiple stories high and looking more like massive grain bins . Unfortunately, these newer coaling towers were so well built that many have proven too expensive for railroads to demolish and several can still be found dotting the landscape across the country, abandoned sentinels of a bygone era of railroading. (shared information of american rails address basically)
[Fortunately, he posted in a public group because there are several comments that document coaling towers that still exist.]
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Brian Westhouse commented on a posting
On this wooden coal tipple (at South Parry, On.) can you see the sand delivery pipes on the corners with supply pipes from near the top. The longer diagonal pipe at the top, delivers the sand to the tower.
The above photo shows that large coaling towers were also made of wood. But of course we don't see them today because wood doesn't last that long. In fact, before they used towers, they used coaling docks made of wood. C&NW in Nelson, IL provides examples of all three generations of coaling stations. First, a couple of photos of the coaling dock from the C&NW Historical Society.

C&NW Historical Society from Dennis DeBruler

C&NW Historical Society from Dennis DeBruler
This Jack Delano photo shows the wood tower that was at Nelson, IL. Since it is labelled OWI (Office of War Information), it is one of the many photos of railroading that Jack took during WWII.

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Since C&NW built their concrete tower after WWII, it would have been built soon before it was useless. I see it does have some metal parts on the other (east) side. I drove east of the tower on the south side looking for a gap in that treeline to get a photo of the other side. But the only gap I could find was on railroad property.

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Back in the steam era, there was a lot of variety among the railroads. So you can find exceptions to almost every convention. For example, EJ&E had separate sand and coaling towers in their Joliet Yard. And the coaling tower was made of metal, which is quite rare.
Michael Bachmann posted
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When constructed correctly, reinforced concrete is so strong that even using explosives to take them down is problematic. When the Rock Island took one down with explosives, the plan was that it would fall to the side. But it dropped down onto the mainline tracks. Kyle McGrogan commented on a posting: "The one in Decatur, Il is still there as the Wabash used old railroad rail for the rebar. N&W tried to blow it down....No luck. To the railroads, they meant these to go 1000 years at the time they built them."

Every town that had a coaling station would also have had a water tower. Although they were not necessarily across the tracks from each other.
Dennis DeBruler, Garrett, PA

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 And there were water towers between coaling stations. So there were more water towers than coaling towers. The reason we don't see more today is that most of them were made of wood, and they have disappeared. One that does exist, and is easy to access if you are ever taking a trip on I-57, is in Kinmundy, IL. In fact, IC built a dam to create a little lake to help supply water for this tower.  Note how the metal bands get closer together as you go down the sides. That is because the water pressure is increasing. They have roofs because the water is treated with chemicals to help reduce the buildup of scale in the steam boilers. They don't want rain water to dilute the chemical treatment.

For tracks that were used by high-priority passenger trains such as NYC's 20th Century Limited, track pans were used to avoid having to stop for water.



Brian Westhouse provided some specifics concerning the spacing of coal and water towers:
On CNR through Northern Ontario, the divisional points averaged 150 miles maximum with coal and water at each end. Another combined Coal and Water stop was made a the 75 mile mark and two or three water towers between coal stops.
I've read that some railroads had a division point every 100 miles, and travelling to the next division point was considered a days work for the train crew. I know that the town of Garrett, IN was created by the B&O to be a division point. Even though trains are no longer serviced there, they are still very proud of their railroad origins. In fact, trains to Chicago were crewed from Garrett long after the conversion to diesel locomotives. They would be cabbed to a motel in Chicago, and then the next day they would run a train back home.

Since Champaign, IL, was a division point, the coaling facility that we see at the top of these notes that was in Gillman, IL, is an example of a coaling station that is about halfway between division points. The Kinmundy water tower was probably an example of an intermediate town that supplied just water.

Sometimes they incorporated water storage in with the coaling tower.
Harold Hoskins commented on a posting
[On this side of the two coal chutes, there appears to be a water spout. So the silo is probably a water tank and the coal bins are behind it. Note that they have a separate sand tower in front.]

Sometimes the train crew improvised to get water.
Brian Westhouse commented on a posting
I took this picture in 1970 about 98 miles north of Toronto. The coal tipple still standing has been long out of service. The 4-8-4 at the head end of this consist is taking on water from the river, being pumped by the local volunteer fire dept.
Peter Dudley shared
Looking for answers (this might be Windsor ON):
Ken Borg Windsor, Ont. Had that big coal dock at Riverside Yard.


Examples of towers that have at least some of their metal parts left


Dennis DeBruler, New Haven, CT
Since the metal parts are tracks, the tower would have used a skip hoist instead of a bucket elevator.

(Update: closeup photos of a preserved skip hoist)

A standing tower that still has parts of its skip hoist.
Dennis DeBruler, Flomation, AL
Normally, they remove the wood parts before they become a falling hazard.
Dennis DeBruler, Buffalo, NY

I had a hard time finding the town, let alone the tower.
Chris Ciesla posted
Mainline coaling tower in Oakland, PA.
As far as I know, this is still standing.
Years ago we used to walk our there to pick up pieces of coal, put them on top of the rail and shoot them. The coal would explode into a cloud of black dust if you got a direct hit. If you were too low, you'd hear the bullet ricochet off the rail.
Times have changed,
Thomas Dorman: Erie, built 1930 by Roberts &Schaefer, 2,000 tons capacity.



Saturday, November 17, 2018

CN/EJ&E's Kirk Yard, Bill Molony's Photos

Bill Molony is the curator of the photo collection of the Blackhawk Railway Historical Society. The regular Kirk Yard notes where already getting big, so I have decided to create a new set of notes for Bill's photos. I include the "posted" link only on the first photo because that gets you in the middle of the photos he posted in the Friends of the EJ&E RR Facebook group.

Some of the photos include a tall, red structure. I have asked what it was, but I have not got an answer.  (Update: DanieG's comment explains that it was a sand tower.) But you can use it to spatially correlate some of the photos. A blue diesel fuel tank can also be used to correlate some other photos.

Bill Molony posted
Elgin, Joliet & Eastern EMD SW1001 #445 was built in July of 1971.
Dennis DeBruler Given the power lines in the background, is this roundhouse in Kirk Yard?
Bob Tarlini Considering the number of powered overhead doors, I would say yes Gary. Also the 444 and 445 were the first switchers to go with the all green paint.
Joseph Tuch Santucci The 445 had a fax machine in the cab. The yardmaster could fax switching instructions and work orders to the engine. Although the several times I worked the Tin Mill job we never received any faxes.

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Christopher Gobert How stable would that load have been?Al HuberAl and 33 others joined Friends of The EJ&E RR within the last two weeks. Give them a warm welcome into your community! Spur track on the humpRichard Staciwa Jr. It's still the same except for the signal bungalow!Skip Burch That's a diagonal gondola. These were used in the Plate Mill, and they didn't require a form 1000, which required the conductor to stop and watch the load between designated bridges due to close clearances, and certain adjacent tracks had to be clear. 

Bill Molony

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Steven Suhs Coils out of the tin mill going over the hump at Kirk yard.
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Bill Molony posted
Dennis DeBruler What was (is?) the tall red structure on the right side?

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Ron Harris That is a jet engine snow blower. The J got them in the winter of '78-'79, when we had over 100 inches accumulated snow.
Al Wszolek Ron Harris is correcft. But if they did not stay over the switch till it was dry the melted snow sometimes would turn to solid ice. Bring on the chippers.



Saturday, May 19, 2018

Locomotives using sand for extra traction and sand towers

(Update: back in the steam era, coaling towers provided sand as well as coal.)
Mark Hinsdale posted
"The Battle"
Like countless trains before it, Conrail #2365 and brethren blast grip-gaining sand onto the railhead as they struggle to lift a westbound merchandise train past "MG" (Mid Grade) Tower west of Pennsylvania's famous Horseshoe Curve, on the tough climb over the Alleghenies. The "battle" is always the same, tonnage against gravity, and the show is extraordinary for one witnessing it at trackside. Throughout the history of four different owners, the combination of mountain vs machine over this most iconic segment of a most iconic railroad, has never failed to captivate. October, 1977 photo by Mark Hinsdale
That cloud of sand is the first time I have seen a photo of sand being used for traction.

Steve Forrest posted
A northbound IC freight lead by GP18 #9404 dusts up the right of way leaving Memphis in Sept 1974. Trailing the 9404 is a GP7 and a GP9, all in the "Green Diamond" paint scheme. Kodachrome by Steve Forrest (I know it's actually the ICG era but I refuse to recognize that lol).
Kevin Ferguson Is this location up toward Leewood.
Steve Forrest Yes, it sure is.
Conrad Baker A searchlight on IC property....there’s a rarity.
Steve Forrest This is actually L&N track - the IC ran over the L&N between Leewood and Aulon in Memphis.
Joey Yarbro That train is getting ready to cross L&N's North Memphis main (as it was called), I believe.
An EJ&E engineer told a story about pulling a coal train out of CB&Q's Eola Yard to deliever it to a power station south of Joliet, IL. Because the EJ&E tracks are elevated to go over the CB&Q tracks, the connector between them is a rather steep hill. He said he did a trip down and up the connector track depositing sand as he went before he did a trip down to hook onto the coal train. He wanted to make sure there was plenty of sand on the track before he drug the loaded coal train up that hill.

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While I was checking out the depot in Murfreesboro, TN, I noticed there were three locomotives parked on a siding that was right next to Overall Street. This allowed me to get some closeup photos of the locomotives without trespassing on railroad property. Grass obscured the wheels of the other two locomotives, but I have a clear view of the front wheel of this one. Note the sand tube ending near the bottom of the wheel to place sand on the rail head.
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It was important that the sand be kept dry. Sand used to be stored in coaling towers. But when steam died, the coaling tower also died. So special sand towers were created for diesel servicing facilities.
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The above is in the CN/IC yard that is south of Centralia, IL. But I have defined the label "towerSand" for both the Industrial History and Town and Nature Blogs to identify other photos of railyards that include a sanding tower. (I invented this label a while after I started a blog when I saw a question in Facebook about this subject. So this label is probably missing from older posts that contain photos with a sand tower.)

Steam locomotives would have two domes. One was the steam dome where steam entered the top of the pipe that fed the cylinders. The other was the sand dome. In this closeup of the CB&Q 3007 that is at the Illinois Railway Museum, we see a couple of tubes coming out of the front dome. So I assume that is the sand dome. I'm surprised that I don't see the end of the tubes in front of the drivers. They are some of the missing parts of this locomotive. You can see the tube in front of the rear driver in a photo of the other side. (I don't know what the rectangle box is that is between the two domes.)
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In this photo, you can clearly see the tube going down from the sand dome to the front of the first driver wheel. A closer look at the tube in front of the driver.

In this photo, you can see the tube going down to the back of the rear driver to provide traction for the reverse direction.


Update:
Wayne Hudak posted
WW2 is in full swing and the railroads step up to the plate to deliver.
Santa Fe locomotives line up at the sanding towers at the Argentine Kansas facility, 1943.
OWI, Jack Delano Photo
Dennis DeBruler There were certainly plenty of sand towers in NWI. When I tried answering the question of "what is sand used for?", I discovered that it was easier to find photos of water and coaling towers than of sand towers. I noted that sand towers are the one item from steam locomotive servicing that is still needed by diesel locomotive servicing.


Glenn Tammen
Filling sand dome on loco 3437. No date or location.
Kansas Historical Society photo.

Sand suppliers probably now use a natural gas fired, continuous flow sand dryer.
Don Murray posted
This is the old sand tower at Salem Illinois. The sand was shoveled from the fenced area into the tower. You built a fire in a large pot belly stove that had a cone around it. You shoveled the wet sand into the cone. As it dried it sifted out the bottom of the cone onto the floor and then you shoveled it into a tank and then applied air pressure to blow it up into the top of the tower with the dust billowing out of the roof. I hated that duty. Finally got a tower that used silica in a hopper and did not require shoveling. Salem fire department was allowed to burn this down for practice.

C&EIRHS shared
[Don also posted a more modern sand tower in Salem, IL.]
The comments of on this post are of interest.
Robert Learmont posted
Servicing power on the 5-Track pit at the Galesburg, IL DSF. 2-1-2020.
Ray Watson III What is the square structure on the right that the covered hopper is outside of?
Robert Learmont Ray Watson III The sand building.
Ray Watson III Interesting. All the sand towers in Alliance,Ne. are outside.
Robert Learmont Our towers are all outside. The sand building is where sand hoppers are emptied into, and houses the system that blows the sand up onto the towers.
Ray Watson III Gotcha...........nifty setup. I don't work on that side, so I could be wrong, but I believe our sand gets trucked in and pumped up top right from the truck.
Robert Learmont Our sand comes from Abel, NE.
I worked in Chicago for about a year and a half, and our sand at Corwith was trucked in and blown up into a big silo, then blown back down out of that silo and into towers. I didn’t work at Cicero at all, but they had no sanding capability at all. They had to call a sand truck if they needed to sand, that filled up at our towers at Corwith.

I cut my teeth in Glendive, and there were no sand towers at all - there was a sand gantry instead, basically just a hopped of sand that rode back and forth on a crane. We received sand by hopper car there as well.

Click on my name and scroll through if you wish, I have better pictures showing our sand towers at Galesburg and our fuel rack with sand towers mounted on top of it at Corwith.

I did scroll through Robert's posts and found:
Robert Learmont posted
Having just been released from a periodic inspection, BNSF 625 catches some rest under the smoke rack at the Galesburg Diesel Shop while awaiting its next assignment. 7-17-2019.

Phillip Prior posted three photos with the comment: "Slides from 1982."
John Pescitelli What was that car for? It seems covered, and looks like at one time it had a red stripe. I remember it sitting in Springfield by the engine shop.
Phillip Prior John Pescitelli I heard it was for sand.
Kathy Guy It was the sand car.
Rick F These were converted coal hopper that had tops and lids added to them for sand service. Some of these cars were not original C&IM hoppers either as when I looked them over they had Milwaukee Road trust plates on them.
Harold J. Krewer In the 70s a couple of those C&IM cars would come to Utica on the Rock Island for silica sand loading. Several roads got their locomotive sand from the Bellrose Silica pit in Utica in company-service hoppers. The most unusal ones were the IC cars made from auxliary water ("cistern") tenders.
Ryan Crawford Rick F that must be why they had different cubic foot capacities. I always wondered why they were different.
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