Tuesday, November 19, 2024

Old Guard Gate and Lost Bridges #7 and #9 on Welland Canal

Guard Gate and Bridge #9: (Satellite)
Bridge #7: (Satellite)

Michel Gosselin posted three photos with the comment: "The old guard gate above lock 7 in Thorold on September 15, 2024."
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Derrick Thornbury commented on Photo 1
Here's a photo of it I took in May 2005 from the paper mill...

Michel Gosselin commented on the above post
It was used to regulate water levels and could be closed if a ship took out the lower gates of lock 7, thereby stopping a flood of the lower part of the canal and surrounding areas. They didn’t need this because they put a guard gate at lock 7.

I think these secant gates are the current guard gates. I noticed them when I wasl looking for the former location of Bridge #7.
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Bridge #9


This shows Bridge #9 operating. The road across the gates and the bridge was replaced by the Thorold Tunnel.
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JD Holmes commented on the above post
Found this one online.
Rick Plato: JD Holmes that pic shows it back when it was the road connecting N.F. to Thorold, prior to the tunnel.
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Bridge #7


Historical Niagara posted four images with the comment: "Many take the Thorold Tunnel daily but before the 1960s  you had to take a Bridge to cross the Canal Bridge #7 THE PETER STREET BRIDGE was replaced by the Tunnel along with Bridge #9 at the Paper Mill..This was a Bascule style and was used a lot on the Canal ..a few still remain .."
Peter D. A. Warwick: Bascule bridge are actually the most common type of bridge on the present canal. Originally there were 9 such bridges, if you count the ones at Homer as being a double bascule. If you look under the bridge you'll see that they are the same design as the others only instead of having the deck at the bottom they have it on top making them also a draw bridge. Today there are 8. The two newest raised bridges on the canal are bascule: Carlton Street in St. Catharines built about 1968 to replace an earlier bridge that was damaged by a boat hitting it and Mellanby Avenue in Port Colborne, which I don't know when it was built. My guess would be the 1980s or 1990s. There were originally 10. Today only 3 remain. There were originally 2 swing bridges. Today none remain.
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Monday, November 18, 2024

6th Street Bridges over Rouge River in Grants Pass, OR

1880's: (Archived Bridge Hunter) Grants Pass Bridge
1909: (Archived Bridge Hunter) Market Road Bridge
1931,2019: (Broken Archived Bridge Hunter; no Historic Bridges; Satellite) Caveman Bridge

BridgeHunter_1880's, Courtesy of the Josephine County Historical Society

Street View, May 2019

The 167.6m (550') bridge has three 150' spans. [structurae]

It looks like the arches are steel box girders. But looks can be deceiving. They are concrete arches. "The name of the bridge comes from the fact that numerous prehistoric peoples once lived in the caves that can be found in the nearby hills and mountains." [PremierCareDental]
Street View, Apr 2024
 
Visit Grants Pass posted
The 1931 Caveman Bridge in Grants Pass spans the Rogue River and serves as the gateway to the Redwood Highway. If you’ve travelled around Oregon enough, you’d know the state’s historic bridges share a particular and distinctive style. That’s because a good portion of them were designed by Conde McCullough, famous for his use of Gothic spires, art deco obelisks, and Romanesque arches incorporated into the bridges. Throughout his lengthy career, he designed over 600 bridges, many of which can be found throughout Oregon.

Jasman Lion Mander posted
Comet Tcushinchan setting over 6th St Bridge in Grants Pass, Oregon. [Oct 14, 2024]

ODOT Flickr

ODOT Flickr
Historic Postcard of Caveman Bridge
Picture postcards of scenes such as Caveman Bridge sent to family and friends were the Facebook and Flickr of their day.

ODOT Flickr
Caveman Bridge Construction Graphic at a glance
A graphic of the planned reconstruction of Caveman Bridge in Grants Pass, Oregon
[These ODOT photos come from an album that contains many photos of the reconstruction work.]


1989,2008 I-295 Dames Point Bridge over St. Johns in Jacksonville, FL

(Archived Bridge Hunter; John A. Weeks IIISatellite, 1,252 photos) Napoleon Bonaparte Broward Bridge

This 10,646' (3.2km, 2 mile) bridge has a main span of 1,300' (396m).

Street View, Aug 2019

Patrick Martin, Oct 2024

There are a lot of street views of this bridge, and they were all practically empty of vehicles. It appears that 4 lanes would have been enough. Note the little black cables tying the big white cables together. I wonder if the bridge was built with them or if they were added later to correct a problem such as cable vibration.
Street View, Jul 2018

Americo fan posted eight photos with the comment:
The Dames Point Bridge, officially known as the Napoleon Bonaparte Broward Bridge, is a prominent cable-stayed bridge located in Jacksonville, Florida.
 Spanning the St. Johns River, it connects the Arlington area with the Westside of the city. Opened to traffic in 1989, the bridge is named after the nearby Dames Point, a historic site significant to the region’s maritime history.
With a main span of 1,600 feet, the Dames Point Bridge is one of the longest cable-stayed spans in the United States. Its design features striking towers that rise to 175 feet [282m], supporting a network of cables that hold the roadway aloft. 
The bridge not only serves as a critical transportation link, facilitating the movement of vehicles across the river, but it also enhances the city’s skyline with its modern architectural aesthetic.
The bridge accommodates both vehicular traffic and pedestrians, with dedicated walkways that allow for scenic views of the river and the surrounding landscape. Its elevated structure provides a vantage point for observing local wildlife and the bustling activities along the St. Johns River.
In addition to its functional role, the Dames Point Bridge is a symbol of Jacksonville’s growth and development. It plays a crucial part in the city’s economy, linking neighborhoods and enabling commerce. 
The bridge is also significant for its engineering, showcasing advancements in bridge design and construction.
Overall, the Dames Point Bridge stands as a testament to Jacksonville’s infrastructure development, embodying both practicality and visual appeal, while serving as a vital artery in the city’s transportation network. 
Its prominence in the area makes it an essential landmark for residents and visitors alike.
Jon Cook: Pedestrian traffic not allowed.
Scott Hamilton: It connects the Northside with the Arlington area. Not the westside....
[Another AI gone bad? Note that Bridge Hunter specifies a span length of 1,300' instead of 1,600'.
Britannica agrees with the 1,300' figure. In fact, 1,600' would make it the longest span in the US instead of the third longest. The side spans are 660' (200m).
And 175' is not the height of the towers, it is the clearance. The height of the towers is 471' (144m). [JohnWeeks]
Basically, everything that wasn't a platitude was wrong.]
Dennis DeBruler: The main span is 1,300' instead of 1,600'. And 175' is the clearance, not the height of the towers. The towers are 471' high.
[I clicked Angry on this post.]
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It has the lowest span for major East Coast ports. [jacksonville]
Bulk commodities, container and cruise ports are just upstream of this bridge.
NOAA uses the term "air gap" instead of vertical clearance. I wonder how many ships have to pay attention to low tides in order to go under the bridge.
TidesAndCurrents

"This bridge had been proposed for more than 30 years. It nearly was started in the 1970s, but an economic recession caused it to be shelved. The bridge design was modified late in the design process to increase the height above the water from 160 feet to 175 feet. It is fortunate that this was done since modern container ships need this clearance. Some critics suggest that this was still too low, and it should have been built with 190 feet of clearance to allow the larger cruise ships to pass under the bridge. Even that would be too low given that the newest cruise ships require 200 feet of clearance....The bridge is officially named after Napoleon Bonaparte Broward, a former governor of Florida and all-around character. Besides his political career, Broward was a daring sea captain and was known to run guns to the Cuban revolutionaries." The cable arrangement is the harp style. [JohnWeeks]

United States beauty posted ten photos with the comment:
The Dames Point Bridge, officially named the Napoleon Bonaparte Broward Bridge, is a cable-stayed bridge spanning the St. Johns River in Jacksonville, Florida. Opened in 1989, it is one of the largest cable-stayed bridges in the United States, featuring a main span of 1,300 feet and soaring towers that reach 471 feet. The bridge is part of the I-295 East Beltway and connects the northern and eastern parts of Jacksonville, supporting substantial commuter and freight traffic. Its high clearance allows large cargo ships to pass underneath, providing critical access to the Port of Jacksonville. The Dames Point Bridge is known for its unique, visually striking design with diamond-shaped towers, making it a recognizable landmark within the Jacksonville skyline. It plays an essential role in the area’s infrastructure, linking key commercial and residential areas across the river.
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Sunday, November 17, 2024

1868 Locust Creek Covered Bridge between Meadville and Laclede, MO

(Archived Bridge Hunter; no Historic Bridges; Satellite, 721 photos)

The span is 151' (46m). [BridgeHunter]

Ben Keller comment on BridgeHunter
The Locust Creek covered bridge is a couple of miles from my house, so I get to see it alot. As you can see this bridge appears to have been moved, however it sits in the original location, as you probally read this bridge spans the Old channel of Locust Creek. Quite sometime ago the creek was channelized, this left the bridge over an oxbow lake or slough as it may be refered to. Over the years this "Lake" dried up and silted in. The bridge was left in at least 2' of mud. A couple of years ago the bridge was lifted about 6'. New approaches were added and timbers were replaced as needed, giving new life to this wonderful piece of Local history!

This bridge was on the "Pikes Peak Ocean To Ocean Highway", which pre-dated the famous "Lincoln Highway" so was considered the first coast to coast highway in the U.S.A.
An old service station and tourist court that sits on present hwy. 36 was originally located on the Pikes Peak Ocean To Ocean Highway at the north edge of Meadville.
[Jim Peeler comment on BridgeHunter]
Travis Overschmidt, Aug 2020
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1 of 7 photos on mostateparks

Kent Pillatsch posted three photos with the comment: "Locust Creek Covered Bridge State Historic Site. This covered bridge, the longest surviving bridge in Missouri, is  located halfway between  Meadville and Laclede at the eastern end of  Dart Rd. You have to hike in a little bit to see the covered bridge. https://mostateparks.com/.../locust-creek-covered-bridge..."
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Lock #1 on the Oswego Canal and Movable Bridge in Phoenix, NY

(Satellite)

Erie Canal Museum posted four photos with the comment:
One of the most photographed boats in our collection: the canal steamboat City of Fulton!
Steam boats first began regular operation on the Erie Canal starting in the 1870s, though they were initially quite rare, though they gained in popularity as the 20th century approached. The City of Fulton appears to have operated in the early 20th century, primarily traveling the Oswego Canal, along which its namesake city is located. Most images we have of the boat show it traveling between Syracuse, the juncture of the Erie and Oswego Canals,  and Oswego itself, with a 1916 newspaper article also confirming that this was its regular route. That newspaper article, as well as these photos, indicate that the City of Fulton was primarily used for hauling freight rather than passengers, a frequent use for steam canal boats during this time period. 
These images are just small window into a unique time period in the Canal’s history, as well as into our collections here at the Erie Canal Museum. As we approach the bicentennial of the Erie Canal, we at the Museum hope to share more of the thousands of items contained in our archives and we invite you to help us share them by participating in our Bicentennial Research Project, where members of the public and scholars are encouraged to do scholarly research on the Erie Canal and submit papers. 
Our archives are open to support any would be research and you can learn more about the project here: https://eriecanalmuseum.org/bicentennial-research-project/
Jaimie Galayda: Would the steam powered boats and the mule towed boats get into traffic jams? I wonder how issues like that would get resolved. The steamboats probably moved faster I imagine?
Erie Canal Museum: Jaimie Galayda Great questions! The mules and steam powered boats were definitely in use at the same time and reportedly the mules were very scared of them. The canal was wide enough for two boats to pass each other, and since steamboats didn't have to drop a tow line, presumably they'd be able to pass the mule-driven boats. Still, the speed limit on the canal was 4 MPH so the steamboats wouldn't have been moving much faster than the mule-driven boats.
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Bob Walker: Prominent background building with smokestacks: Burhans & Black, Inc. dates back to 1874 when Henry Nehemiah Burhans’ sash, blind, and door company joined with Jerrold William Black’s hardware business to become Burhans, Black & Co.

Street View, Sep 2023

The movable bridge is interesting. I don't know what to call that design. An "overhead trunnion?"
Street View, Sep 2021

Street View, Sep 2023

I can't figure out what the dark grey things are for.
Street View, Sep 2021