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Friday, July 10, 2026

1968 CSX/NC&StL Running Water Creek Trestle over I-24 near Whiteside, TN

(Archived Bridge Hunter; Bridge Hunter; no Historic Bridges; Satellite)


The 1113 (339m) long trestle has 100' (30.5m) spans. [BridgeHunter]

Northbound:
Street View, Nov 2024

Southbound:
Street View, Dec 2015

Looking North:
Mark Boettcher, Nov 2023

J.B. Rail Photog posted
** windshield view**
If you've ever driven this stretch of the interstate, you've definitely looked up at this massive piece of steel.
Who knows exactly where this iconic overpass is?
Drop your guesses!

"This bridge is a critical piece of infrastructure to CSXT and NS as it is the CSXT main from Nashville to Chattanooga and NS uses it for trackage rights for their Memphis and Charleston line. This is the fourth or fifth bridge to be built at that location. There will always be a Running Water Creek bridge." [Alan Walker comment on ArchivedBridgeHunter]

J.B. stopped for some railfanning.
J.B. Rail Photog posted
Finally got to see the massive Running Water Creek Trestle in person!  This towering steel giant cuts right over I-24 just west of Chattanooga, and it's wild seeing it slice diagonally across the valley from down here. Managed to time it perfectly to catch CSX L795 train rolling across as my radio wasn't getting good reception in that valley.
Frank Keller Photography: Love this area and the fact that CSX and NS both run over this line. Very nice JB
David Harding: I've often wondered what was here before the interstate was built.
Was it a continuation of the trestle style that is on either side of the highway?
Tag Rail: David Harding the trestle was there first, but the concrete piers were installed for the Interstate. Before the bridge was entirely those old iron bridge piers.

Michael Arnold commented on the above post
It is indeed a towering trestle.

J.B. Rail Photog posted three photos with the comment: "A few angles of this Running Water Creek Trestle over I-24 in Whiteside, TN.  It's a pretty neat bridge if you can catch a train going across which isn't difficult as this line the CSX Chattanooga Subdivision that also as Norfolk Southern trains also running over via trackage rights that date back to the 1800s and I have found these are some the oldest trackage rights still in existence from the predecessor railroads."
Curtis Tate: It’s a swap of sorts. NS uses CSX track from Wauhatchie to Stevenson and CSX uses the NS Tennessee River bridge at Decatur.
Justin Strickland: The Stevenson Extention which was under construction by Southern almost eliminated those trackage rights but it was never fully completed
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Kimberly Friar commented on the above post
Was there yesterday

Sunday, February 23, 2025

1852 L&N/NC&StL Cumberland Mountain Tunnel near Cowan, TN

North Portal: (Satellite, a little east of the trail bridge.)
South Portal: (Satellite)


"The Cowan Tunnel, or Cumberland Mountain Tunnel, is a railroad tunnel near Cowan, Tennessee. The tunnel was built by the Nashville & Chattanooga Railroad Company and was completed in 1852 with the tracks laid in 1853 with a total length of 2,200 ft (670 m)." [dbpedia]
tnhistoryforkids specifies a completion date of May 1851. It also reminds us that back in the 1850s, tunnels were built by hand, not with steam. "One man would hold and turn a short length of steel bit, while two others struck it with eight-pound hammers."

Citation: "Cowan Tunnel," approximately 1940, Looking Back at Tennessee Photograph Collection, 1890-1981, 7684, Tennessee State Library and Archives, Tennessee Virtual Archive, https://teva.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15138coll50/id/419, accessed 2025-02-23.

Dale Proctor posted
Cumberland Mountain tunnel, built by the NC&StL Railroad in 1852 to connect Nashville and Chattanooga. That’s the arch bridge carrying the Tracy City branch in front of it. Near Cowan Tenn., 6/20/86

I don't know if the NC&StL used east/west or north/south directions in their timetable, so I used geographic directions to label the satellite locations. I know of the NC&StL as the railroad that teamed up with the CB&Q to build a bridge across the Ohio River. I got a map to learn more about this railroad in this area of Tennessee.
1903 Map from Wikipedia via Dennis DeBruler

Google Maps labels the south portal of this tunnel as "Cowan Tunnel." The label "Cumberland Mountain Tunnel" takes you to a "cultural landmark" near the Cowan Railroad Museum (former NC&StL depot). So the actual length is 2,228' (679m).
Street View, Apr 2014

In most of the satellite images I looked at, the tracks south of the tunnel were hidden by the shadow of the trees. But this one shows us at least some of the track.
Global Earth, Sep 2014


Saturday, September 30, 2023

1930+1994 US-431 George Houston Bridge and NC&StL Ferry at Guntersville, AL

1930: (Archived Bridge Hunter; Bridge Hunter; no Historic Bridges)
1994: (Satellite)


This bridge is over Lake Guntersville.

Bridges Now and Then posted
A 1948 postcard of the George Houston Bridge across the Tennessee River at Guntersville, Alabama. (Marshallco)

Dennis DeBruler commented on the above post
The topo maps normally don't record the names of bridges. But these topos do. 1950 Mt Carmel and Guntersville Quads @ 24,000
The town is surrounded by water because of the Guntersville Dam.  The railroad ferry went downriver past the Flint River.

Life in Tennessee posted
Start of the brige over Tenn. River 1938 Guntersville Alabama
[A start date of 1938 is not consistent with Bridge Hunter's 1930 built date.]

John Winder Flickr via ArchivedBridgeHunter

The ferry caught my eye, so I found its route from Guntersville, AL, to Hobbes Island. I don't remember another railroad ferry using the inland waterway.
1903 Gadsden Quad @ 125,000

gvdepot_history
The ferry service was discontinued in 1960.

As we have come to expect, today the road bridge is just another UCEB (Ugly Concrete Eyesore Bridge).
Street View, Jul 2022

Update:
North Alabama Online posted
Bridge across Lake Guntersville in Marshall County, Alabama
Source
Alabama Department of archives and history
Danny Spurling: The freight train on the barge was loaded near city harbor and floated downstream and put back on the railroad bound for huntsville and beyond.
Wayne Hunt: The George Houston Bridge opened in the early 1930’s. It was originally a Toll Bridge which prevented a lot of local travelers from accessing it. The ferry was still in operation for a number of years later. In 1936, a plan was conceived to raise the existing bridge due to the height of the expected water level with the completion of the Guntersville Dam. Engineers expected another 17 feet of clearance would be required. The bridge was raised and in Jan 1939 the completed dam was closed and it took less than a month for the water level to reach its flood stage.

Wayne Hunt commented on the above post


Monday, September 20, 2021

CSX/L&N/NC&SL/Western & Atlantic Tunnels under Chetoogeta Mountain in Tunnel Hill, GA

Satellite: (East Portals, West Portals)

We are looking at the current tunnel in this street view. The previous tunnel is to the right obscured by trees. The building on the left was the L&N Depot and the building on the right is the Western & Atlantic Railroad Tunnel Museum. That building is the historic Clisby Austin House that was built in 1848. It "was used as a Confederate field hospital in 1862-1863 and as a headquarters for Union General William T. Sherman in May of 1864 as he planned his famous Atlanta Campaign." The tunnel was the "final connection point between Chattanooga and Atlanta, connecting 137 miles of railroad tracks." Both the house and tunnels have been used in various movies. [CivilWarRailraodTunnel]
Street View

This view is east of the museum building and shows a covered bridge and a train coming out of the current tunnel.
Street View

The covered bridge. BridgeHunter-1850 says this is a modern covered bridge.
Street View, Dec 2007

The bike path on the left is the old train route to the old tunnel. On the other side of the fence is the new train tracks.
Street View

Chris Ness posted
Tunnel Hill Tunnels
The new (1928) tunnel on the NC&StL at Tunnel Hill, Georgia. The older tunnel, now open as part of a museum, is barely visible on the right behind a berm and weeds. The tunnel is a little more than 450 metres long (1477 feet).
02/08
[The active line is the W&A subdivision of CSX.]

Comments on Chris' post
Bridge Hunter for Western & Atlantic RR Tunnel

Saturday, May 22, 2021

CSX/NC&StL and US-70 Bridges over Kentucky Lake at New Johnsonville, TN

1867,1915 NC&StL: (Bridge Hunter) replaced in 1945 because of Kentucky Lake
1945 NC&StL: (Bridge Hunter) NC&StL = Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis then L&N
1940 US-70: (Bridge Hunter) replaced in 1980 with a UCEB
(Satellite)

1915 (probably) Railroad Bridge   The 1867 bridge was made with wood.
1915 Bridge Hunter

Charlesetta Morgan posted two photos with the comment:
Johnsonville Railroad Bridge from the Eva, Tn. side of the river.  Clearly see the swing span section of bridge and the operator’s room, 1939 Aerial Image. The first Johnsonville bridge (built 1867) was made of old wooden truss spans and was affectionately called ”Old John”. Around 1900, an all-steel upper structure replaced the wood along with other improvements and the upgraded bridge was called ”New John”.
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1945 Railroad Bridge
The Jackson Sun, Oct 26, 1977, via 1945 Bridge Hunter

Maxine DeBruce posted
Picture taken by Tony Robinson.
He was born in 1947 and died in 2021.
[I wonder where US-70 was back then because there is no road bridge.]
Brad Houk: The movable span of the pictured bridge was relocated in the mid '80's and is still in service near Bridgeport Alabama. It replaced a center turn span bridge.
I worked maintenance on this bridge at Bridgeport for nearly 30 years.
Comments on Maxine's post

On the right side of the above photo we can see this 1940 US-70 bridge.
1940 Bridge Hunter

Jeff Wilson posted

Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis Railway bridge across the Tennessee River at New Johnsonville, Tennessee.

Railroad bridge is the black one in the background. Foreground bridge is U.S. 70 (Tennessee Route 1), which is the historic Memphis-Bristol Highway, one of the first recognized long-distance highway routes. It has a rich history of its own.
Tennessee Valley Authority's New Johnsonville Steam Plant (opened 1951; demolished 2017) is in the background. Johnsonville (not New) had Civil War history but was flooded by the creation of Kentucky Lake.
The railroad bridge is still in use.
Back of card in comments. Postmarked 1952. Personal collection.
Jeff Wilson shared

Jim Pearson Photography posted
CSXT 3194 Spirit of our Law Enforcement unit eastbound at New Johnsonville, TN
Not the shot I had originally planned for this location of CSXT 3194 (Spirit of our Law Enforcement) unit leading CSX Q125 east across the Tennessee River, but a good alternate shot, none the less!
My primary spot for this location was going to be up close to the drawbridge with the train coming across, but when I flew down to the location, I realized the battery on the drone was at 52 percent.
I left the drone in place till the battery dropped to 28% and flew it back to me to change it (didn’t want it to drop from the sky into the river). Not sure at the time why it was so low as I keep all the batteries on charge with an inverter in my SUV, but when I checked the inverter had come unplugged and all three batteries were less than 50% charged, I put the next strongest battery in (48%) and went airborne in time to see the train coming down the throat of the bridge!
Even in sport mode I knew I wouldn’t make it back to my spot and so I set up for this secondary spot for this shot I knew I was going to crop as a vertical image. From now on I’ll always remember to make sure the charger is connected before I hit the road!
According to CSX Press Releases - CSX Transportation's "Spirit of our Law Enforcement" commemorative locomotive CSXT 3194 was renamed and painted to honor our nation's police officers who dedicate their lives to serve and protect communities across our network.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic Air 2 Drone, RAW, 4.5mm (24mm equivalent lens) f/2.8, 1/640, ISO 100.
Roger Riblett posted

Jim Pearson Photography posted
CSX southbound work train over the Tennessee River, New Johnsonville, TN
CSXT 5419 heads up work train J056 as it heads south across the bridge on the Tennessee River at New Johnsonville, Tennessee on the CSX Bruceton Subdivision.
This railroad bridge crosses over the Tennessee River at New Johnsonville, TN and connects Humpreys and Benton Counties and runs next to the Hickman Lockhart Memorial highway Bridge. It is a multiple through truss bridge with vertical lift section for barge traffic, was built in 1945, and still in use.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic Air 2 Drone, RAW, 4.5mm (24mm equivalent lens) f/2.8, 1/400, ISO 100.
Reed Reding: A little bit of additional info about this bridge, it was originally on the IC's Paducah to Louisville line. The N.C.&St.L. bought the bridge after the IC main was relocated to the top of Kentucky Dam and barged it to New Johnsonville. Excellent shot sir!
Charles Perry: I am the day shift bridge tender for the CSX New Johnsonville Bridge.  CSX Nashville Division
[A comment on this photo makes me wonder what the Average Daily Traffic count is for the 4-lane bridge.]

Reed's comment explains why all of the spans except the lift span are pin-connected.
Street View

A street view also shows that two lanes with modern shoulders would probably have been enough to handle the traffic.
Street View

A third data point, a photo taken by my wife, also indicates a rather high $/car cost for this bridge.
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A fourth data point is the satellite image. I see just one car and one truck. And the road across the land is just two lanes! It appears this bridge should have also been named after a congressman as a monument to pork barrel spending as was the Bill Emerson Memorial Bridge.

The Street View had a better view because it was in the closest traffic lane. But you probably won't see shots this detailed.



My wife knows that my industrial scenery interests are not limited to just bridges.

Judging from the propwash, the towboat on the side is along for the ride. I wondered why they didn't put it in the "hole" in the front port side of the tow. Then I remembered how the bow of a towboat pushes water even worse than a barge.





Tuesday, July 31, 2018

1917 CB&Q+NC&StL+IC (actually, P&I) Bridge over Ohio River at Metropolis, IL

(Bridge HunterHistoric Bridges, Satellite)

NC&StL = Nashville, Chattanooga and St. Louis Railway 

The CB&Q and NC&StL created the Paducah and Illinois Railroad to construct the bridge to connect their railroads. The United States Railroad Administration forced the IC to move its trains from its ferry service to this bridge in 1918. 

This bridge was designed by Ralph Modjeski (later Modjeski and Masters). [HistoricBridges]

Note that the far (Kentucky side) span is longer. At the time, it was a record long 720' simple span. The other four spans are "just" 551'.
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Because I could not include all of the right-most span with the lens cranked all the way down to 18mm in the above photo, I got a closeup of the north (Illinois) span. The powerplant in the background is the TVA Shawnee Fossil Plant.

sternwheel-part4 has a couple of photos of the bridge. That page also has seven facts including: "At 708 feet [216m] the bridge contains the longest pin-connected simple through truss span in the world."

Anthony Blanchard posted

Birds-Eye View
David Honan
David Honan

David Cantrell posted, cropped
Metropolis Aerial View 1937 Flood
  • National Archives Airscapes Collection

Illinois Central Railroad Scrapbook posted
The Paducah & Illinois Railroad bridge across the Ohio River, as seen from the caboose of the Rosiclare Local. The bridge was built to accomodate two mainline tracks, but only one was ever laid. Circa 1959. Photographer unknown, Cliff Downey coll.

David Cantrell posted three images with the comment: "The Paducah and Illinois railroad constructed the Metropolis, IL Ohio River railway bridge. The 750 foot span is shown below in 1917 from the Railway Journal. There were two other 550 foot spans and one of 300 foot. The piers are 75 feet below the river bed. It recently passed its 100th anniversary. Also included is a 1937 flood aerial photo and one from 2017."
James Morrissey: Did not like going over that bridge. Creeped me out.
Eddie Bauer: James Morrissey or the next 5 south on that Bluford district lol
Eddie Bauer: Those piers are not attached to the bedrock either. 10mph speed restriction. And look down as you power over the super structure and the red mud that pumps / comes up as the pressure of the locomotives actually move the piers vertically
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Jim Pearson Photography posted
The American Duchess passing under CN U72481-05 at West Paducah, KY
The American Duchess, a river cruise paddle-wheeler owned and operated by American Queen Steamboat Company passes under southbound Canadian National U72481-05 on the bridge over the Ohio River between Metropolis, IL and West Paducah, KY. U72481-05 is carrying a load of Iron ore from Keenan, MN to Convent, LA on the CN Bluford Subdivision.
According to Wikipedia: The American Duchess is a river cruise paddle-wheeler owned and operated by American Queen Steamboat Company (AQSC). It is the third addition to their fleet and is advertised as being the most luxurious option of the line's vessels. The riverboat's itineraries include routes on the Mississippi, Ohio, Tennessee, Cumberland, and Illinois Rivers.
Before it was American Duchess, this vessel was originally designed and built for Isle of Capri Casinos as a casino boat named Bettendorf Capri.
After going land-based, Isle of Capri sold the paddle-wheeler to AQSC in 2016. On October 16, 2016, Bettendorf locals gathered on the levee to give their farewell to the 21-year-old casino boat and watched her pull off the riverbank to sail south to undergo her reconstruction.
Contracted to Bollinger Shipyards in Morgan City, Louisiana, the vessel would be gutted, remodeled, and relaunched as a river cruise liner the following year. The conversion from a casino boat to an overnight passenger vessel involved the removal of over 1,000 slot machine bases and 1,200 steel chairs, the construction of new dividing walls to form 83 passenger cabins, the addition of a crew hold, a completely new interior layout and design, modifications to propulsion and a new exterior paint job.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic Air 2 Drone, RAW, 4.5mm (24mm equivalent lens) f/2.8, 1/240, ISO 100.
Doug Hays: Hit a low bridge? Where's all the upper deck stuff? You know, stacks, pilot house, deck chairs....

Jim Pearson Photography posted
CN U72481-05 shadow move at West Paducah, KY
Canadian National U72481-05 heads southbound over the Ohio River bridge between Metropolis, IL and West Paducah, KY carrying a load of Iron ore from Keenan, MN to Convent, LA on the CN Bluford Subdivision as it and the bridge cast long and deep shadows on the waters below on May 7th, 2021.
According to Wikipedia: The Mesabi Iron Range is a mining district in northeastern Minnesota following an elongate trend containing large deposits of iron ore. It is the largest of four major iron ranges in the region collectively known as the Iron Range of Minnesota. First described in 1866, it is the chief iron ore mining district in the United States. The district is located largely in Itasca and Saint Louis counties. It has been extensively worked since 1892 and has seen a transition from high-grade direct shipping ores through gravity concentrates to the current industry exclusively producing iron ore (taconite) pellets.
There are three iron ranges in northern Minnesota, the Cuyuna, the Vermilion, and the Mesabi. Most of the world's iron ore, including that contained in northern Minnesota, was formed during the middle Precambrian period.
Tech Info: DJI Mavic Air 2 Drone, RAW, 4.5mm (24mm equivalent lens) f/2.8, 1/500, ISO 100.

The powerplant in the background is the TVA Shawnee Fossil Plant.
20171230 9402c, east elevation taken from the I-24 Bridge
(I still haven't figured out why my bridge pictures are typically so hazy.)

First of nine photos in C Hanchey's Illinois Flickr Album, License: Creative Commons Attribution (CC BY-NC)

I have noticed that when you take I-57 to Kentucky you pass under a BN overpass in the southern part of the state. This surprised me when I first saw it because the motto of the Chicago, Burlington, and Quincy was "Everywhere West." Not South. Like the Milwaukee Road, CB&Q wanted their own access to coal in the Ohio River valley. In fact, James J. Hill, who aquired control the of CB&Q in 1901 could use the coal for his other railroads --- Great Northern and Northern Pacific.
So, in 1904 Burlington acquired a 122 mile line from Concord, IL to Centralia, IL. In 1905 the CB&Q began pushing towards Metropolis to link up with the Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis Railroad (NC&StL) in Paducah. CB&Q reached Metropolis in 1910. The Paducah & Illinois Railroad (P&I) was formed of a partnership between CB&Q and NC&StL to build a mile long bridge over the Ohio and 15 miles of track to connect the 2 Railroads. [Part 1]
Burlington specified a double track bridge that would support Cooper E90 live loading. This showed significant foresight because E90 (90,000 pounds per axle (Army)) is a strong bridge by even today's standards. [Part 2, ConnDOT, WiscDOT]  The trusses and approach bents support two tracks, but the approach plate girder spans currently support just one track. As I have come to expect with long train bridges, trains travel slowly over this bridge.
A complicating factor at the Metropolis site was that bedrock was approximately 230 feet below low water level. This depth prohibited founding the piers on the bedrock, instead the piers are founded on a thick quartz sand layer at approximately 75 feet below low water level. Founding the piers on a substrate that could allow them to settle over time prohibited many bridge designs. CB&Q Chose to build a Simple Truss Bridge designed and built using Silicon Steel instead of the normal High Carbon Steel and specifying an even stronger nickel steel for certain members of the bridge allowing the bridge to be made lighter. [Part 2]
C Hanchey Illinois Flickr Album has nine photos starting with an overview.

See last paragraph of IC Railroad Scrapbook.

Lots of info in this posting's comments
The rivermen were allowed to specify the placement of the piers. They specified a 700' navigation span [part10] When they learned that the engineers designed a span over 700', the rivermen decided: "By having the main span 720 feet in width, a steamboat with a large tow will be able to pass under the bridge at any angle. With lights on the piers at night the span will be sufficient width to enable the pilots to judge his distance and pass under the bridge." [part12]

John Stigall commented on a posting
Bridge + sunset - what could be better?

If you have seen one of the 551' spans, you have seen them all. (Because of the driftwood, you can tell that this is a different photo of the span.)

It is hard to catch how much bigger the 720' span is from the Illinois side. This does catch the unique "stepped" design of the piers. The lower part is probably thicker to resist ice and flood waters.

Kenneth James White posted
Another giant spanning the Ohio River: The Metropolis Bridge at Cario Illinois.
[The bridge is at Metropolis, not Cairo. The step in the piers make it easy to determine that the water level was higher when this photo was taken.]
Even the approach is rather massive.

Bob Kinstrey posted several photos with the comment: "Crossing the Ohio River a few miles south of I 24 at Paducah KY. Also some of the approach bridges on IL side. There is another RR bridge of the same design several miles north of I 24."

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Ken Bailey posted 13 photos with the comment:
I'm a comic book cartoonist as well as a railfan, and have enjoyed for years going to Metropolis (IL) for the big Superman Celebration in June. The river crossing there for the railroad line has one of the finest bridges I've ever seen -- seven spans, and an approach that must take a mile or two. Trains of several railroads share it. In addition, one of the people working the Metropolis show is a retired Illinois Central locomotive engineer/crewman, and it is always fun to hear his stories of the old days, as well!

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Jeff Yielding posted
From a few years ago, crossing from Paducah KY over to Metropolis IL. The bridge was opened in 1917!
Dennis DeBruler Nice catching it with some engines on it because that demonstrates the scale of those spans. The government agreed to the steamboat industry's demand that the navigation channel be over 700' wide. They thought that length would kill the possibility of a bridge being built. But their bluff was called. At the time of construction, the main span was a record setting simple span of 720'. The others are "just" 551'. The bridge is jointly owned by BNSF and CN.
Jeff Yielding commented on his post
And the speed limit is a whooping 5mph! Have watched many trains go over this man-made wonder. Here's is my photo that I submitted to wikipedia. Oh, and the total length including the approaches is 6,424 ft.

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