Friday, September 30, 2016

1925 Pope Lick Trestle east of Louisville, KY

(Bridge Hunter, Satellite)

This was owned by the Southern Railroad so it is now owned by Norfolk Southern.

6 drone photos of a train carrying military equipment crossing the trestle, p50

Chris Nicholson Jr. posted
Louisville Kentucky's Famous Pope Lick Trestle - 9-22-2016

J. B. Rail Photog posted
06/14/2020 - Trying out my Mavic Mini at Pope Lick Trestle in Louisville, KY. Here's NS 172 with the NS Heritage Unit Lehigh Valley 8104 leading as they head westbound in the NS Louisville District. It's really fun to be up so high almost eye level with the train here. This is going to be my go to spot for drone videos and pictures because it's about as wide open as it gets around here.
Javid Beykzadeh shared

J. B. Rail shared a similar view of a coal train with the comment:
05/11/2021 - Norfolk Southern Corp train 893 passes over Pope Lick Trestle in Louisville, KY, with empty coal hoppers from Tennessee Valley Authority Kingston Fossil Plant in Harriman, TN, headed back to Fransisco, IN, to get more black diamonds.

Four of the photos posted by Barry Delaney with the comment: "NS 125 at Pope Lick Trestle east of Louisville on Norfolk Southern's Louisville Division."




J.B. Rail Photog added
01/28/2021 - Perhaps the dynamic duo of the year so far was "Sonic Bonics" DC to AC rebuild units NS 4004 Blue Mane AC44C6M and 1800 Yellow Mane SD70ACC leading NS 124 over Pope Lick Trestle in Louisville, KY. The snow was definitely an added bonus!
Dennis DeBruler shared

This is a new perspective.
J.B. Rail Photog added
08/09/2022 - BNSF 8111 ES44C4 leads Norfolk Southern 223 over Pope Lick in Louisville, KY, in the NS Louisville District.

J.B. Rail Photog posted
Track turnout panels on Norfolk Southern 168 crossing Pope Lick in Louisville, KY.
[An interesting load.]

I've been skipping some drone photos of this trestle, but as Javid Beykzadeh commented, this is a new view.
J.B. Rail Photog posted
Norfolk Southern 219 crosses Pope Lick in Louisville, KY, eastbound in the NS Louisville District.  Normally this angle isn't good but with the cloud cover doesn't make it a bad a shot for the time of the day.

J.B. Rail Photog posted
10/20/2023 - Norfolk Southern 336 crosses over Pope Lick in Louisville, KY, with Fall colors beginning to pop all around the scene.

In Sept 2020, I got hit with a Double Doomsday. Both Facebook and Google changed their software. I said "changed" instead of "updated" because the new software is not better. In fact, Google's Blogger software is far worse except for a search function that works. For example, it has three bugs concerning photos and their captions. So I'm no longer copying photos and interesting comments from Facebook. I'm just saving the link. Unfortunately, some of the links are to private groups.

Video of building a 4-cylinder, 4-6-4 British locomotive in the 1930s

Screenshot from Video
I like these old manufacturing videos because they consist of just manufacturing scenes. You don't have to watch "talking heads" talk about the usual platitudes such as "listening to our customers and fixing the problems," "process improvement," etc.

Some points of interest:
  • The frame is built up with thick plates rather than cast as one piece. "By 1930, the company was making one-piece locomotive beds with integral cylinders and cradle..." [Wikipedia]
  • I was surprised they were still using sledge hammers in the 1930s. I expected small forge hammers for small hammered forgings.
  • You do get to watch them build a big mold, pour the metal, and dismantle the mold and sand to free the casting for the inside cylinders.
  • The inside firebox is made of copper.
  • When were hardhats invented? When where they ubiquitously required?
  • Nobody is wearing glasses, let alone safety glasses. Did they have minimum vision requirements for their employees? Most of that work would not require 20/20 vision. But 20/200 might be a problem for at least some of the work.
  • They also show a drive wheel being cast. I assume there is some sort of marker for the hub and crank pin fillers. At first it struck me that they placed the plugs for the hub and crank pin rather causally. Then it struck me that the accuracy is provided by the machining, not the casting.
  • Judging by the crankshafts on the axle, this engine had four cylinders, two on the inside and two on the outside.
  • What is the guy who is playing chicken with the drop forge hammer doing every time he reaches in? He doesn't have enough time to do much.
  • 12:50   "Who will say now that the day of the craftsman is no more." If they thought the craftsman was dying in the 1930s, imagine what they would think about America today?
Looked around the net and it seems like it got derailed in 1951 due to a defective part, 15 people died and 35 are injured.

That is why ultrasound testing and other forms of non-evasive testing were invented so that each part can be tested for defects before it is used.

Thursday, September 29, 2016

Santa Fe Coaling Tower and Steel Works north of Joliet, IL

March 1943. Between Lockport and Joliet, Illinois, along the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe.

One of the comments confirms the background is a steel plant:
The site is most likely the coke ovens of the Joliet Iron and Steel Works, which dates to the early 1870s. All operations at the plant ended in the early 1980s. It seems likely the ATSF would have supplied coal to the coke facility, and handled finished steel product in local interchange service and points west.
The bridge is the approach to the EJ&E lift bridge. The coaling tower is in the upper-right corner of this 1939 photo. You can see the bridge that frames the photo near the bottom.

1939 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

EarthExplorer: Apr 1, 1952 @ 17,000; AR1UC0000040101

Wednesday, September 28, 2016

CIRY: Central Illinois Railroad

(Shortlines, Reporting Mark: CIRY/DRSX) In this blog, searching with the keywords "Central," "Illinois," and "Railroad" produces a lot of false hits. So I'm now including the reporting marks.)

Birds-Eye View
Please follow the "Shortlines" link above for a description of this railroad. Central Illinois operated CB&Q's 1860s industrial park between 2000 and 2010. (In fact, the last day was Aug 9, 2010. [RobertJordan])

Ed has a Flickr photo of their EMD switchers sitting in their yard. His comment taught me that their headquarters was at 918 W. Cermak Road. If you look at a recent satellite image, you will not see a yard. But once again we can use the birds-eye view as a time machine and see where the yard was.

As part of my trip to get pictures of the Fisk Generating Plant before it is torn down, I took quite a few pictures of the BNSF/CB&Q track that is still left in this area.
20150705 2566, the fork north of Canalport
I added photos following the west fork from Canalport south across Cermak and then along Cermak.
The branch of the eastern "yard track" that sharply angled to the east with crossing signals and went along Cermak as the Lumber district is now gone.

Birds-Eye View
But the part of the eastern "yard track" that crossed Cermak into an industrial area still exists. However, the crossing signals have been removed and the flangeway has filled up in stretches. Satellite images show the area between the two forks and between Canalport and Cermak to be a storage area. But when I was there in the Summer of 2015, it was vacant land.

Edward Kwiatkowski posted
The Central Illinois Railroad (Shortline) at
work switching a former C,B & Q
industrial branchline, in Chicago's
Pilsen neighborhood near Cermak
Road and Canalport Street.
Chicago Illinois. Friday, October 31st 2008. (Defunct.)
Dennis DeBruler In 2015 I took six photos of the line that Ed's train was on. I started shooting from Canalport and walked south across, and then along, Cermak. The fancy rubberized crossing shown in Ed's photo is gone. But the main crossing still existed including the crossing signals. Also, even the smokestack of the old Fisk Power Station exists even though its boilers have been cold for many years
Franklin Campbell That track led to a lumber yard that received centerbeams until 2007. The CIRY later stored their parts locomotive on that track. It remained there after the BNSF takeover. Once the locomotive was sold and moved off the line, the track was pulled up.

These are the six photos I took of the route that Ed's train is on.
From Canalport Avenue looking southish

The turnout for the left fork we saw above is gone as is the crossing in Cermak Road.

The right fork continues to cross Cermak and the crossing signals still exist. Note that the smokestack of the Fisk Electric Power plant still stands even though the boilers have been cold for years.

That fork curves west to follow along the south side of Cermak.

Fisk could also receive coal from barges on the South Branch, so I don't know how many coal cars it used to receive.

I walked along the track by Cermak and then turned around to get this shot of weeds, brown rail, filled in crossings, and turnouts for industrial spurs that go nowhere.
They were putting these Blackhawk figures up because we had just won the Stanley Cup.

By the time I was done taking pictures of the old BNSF/CB&Q tracks, they were almost done.

John DeWit Woodlock II posted
CIRY 1206;1209 @ Sangamon Ave-Chicago,IL 06 AUG 10.
Note the Central Illinois "headquarters" no longer has any rolling stock. It is just a storage area now with a fence. But Google has this labeled Spanish with Salas, so it appears a building is going to soon be built here.

John DeWit Woodlock II posted
CIRY 1209 @ Sangamon Ave-Chicago,IL 09 AUG 10.
When I visited the area in 2015 to get photos of the track and Fisk, the triangle was just weeds and track. Below is one of many photos I took of the track that is left along Cermak Road.
20150705 2571

John DeWit Woodlock II posted
CIRY 1209,1206 @ Battaglia Foods-Chicago,IL 09 AUG 10.
John DeWit Woodlock II commented on his posting
Go to Ashland Ave between Blue Island Ave on the north and the Chicago River on the south. The tracks were just west of Ashland behind the buildings fronting the west side of the street. Looking at Google Earth. The tracks between Blue Island and Battaglia have been removed.From north to south , there is a trapazoidal shaped parking lot, three builds in a cluster, two more parking lots, another warehouse type of building, a street that Ts off going north and south (this is how you get to the shot-by turning left/south-to get to the boat storage yard as well) along the west side of Battaglia ( the next warehouse on the south side of that short street). The yellow line in the center is Ashland Ave. Enlarge the picture to get a bit of detail.
John DeWit Woodlock II posted
CIRY 1209,1206 @ Battaglia Foods-Chicago,IL 09 AUG 10.
John DeWit Woodlock II posted
CIRY 1206 @ Paulina Ave-Chicago,IL 02 AUG 10.
John DeWit Woodlock II posted
CIRY 1206 feat Robert @ 19th Street-Chicago,IL 02 AUG 10.
John DeWit Woodlock II posted
DRSX (CIRY)1208 @ 18th Street-Chicago,IL 25 APR 02.
Street View from 18th
[It looks like they upgraded the crossing soon before they abandoned the line.]
Street View, crossing is in 18th Street
[The satellite image still showed the track going south to 18th Place.]
John DeWit Woodlock II posted two photos with the comment: "DSRX (CIRY) 1208 @ Carpenter Street-Chicago,IL 02 APR 01."
John DeWit Woodlock II I used to drive the 21 Cermak bus and would occasionally see them switching out Colonial Brick or even Kramer. I still kick myself for not doing more with this outfit.

Dennis DeBruler commented on John's posting
I'm glad you included CIRY in parens because when I Google "DSRX railroad," it keeps changing it to DSRC. And DSRX currently stands for Downeast Scenic Railroad. This is what it looked like in 2015. I'm standing on the asphalt entrance to the power plant that the Jeep is turning into in your second photo.

Dennis DeBruler commented on John's posting
The view from the same location looking West. Note the switch stand that is still standing in the weeds.
Dennis DeBruler commented on John's posting
 It was not the only switch stand that still existed even though the turnout goes to nowhere.
John DeWit Woodlock II posted
CIRY 1206 @ Hoyne Ave-Chicago,IL 02 AUG 10.

John DeWit Woodlock II posted
CIRY 1206,1209 @ Throop Street-Chicago,IL 09 AUG 10.
Dennis DeBruler commented on John's posting
 A block further west, Loomis Street. The tall, white building blends in with the light blue sky and is hard to spot. Looking with Street View, a lot of the buildings on the left in your photo are gone, which explains why I favored the old tower on the right.
John DeWit Woodlock II posted
CIRY 1206 @ Loomis Street (Kramer)-Chicago,IL 09 AUG 10.
[Looking at street views, Kramer has made has made a lot of changes on their property. For example, torn up the track and added paved parking.]

Dennis DeBruler commented on John's posting
Now I understand where this industrial spur between buildings off of Cermak used to go.
Dennis DeBruler commented on John's posting
Dennis DeBruler The city has removed the two crossings from Loomis, but the crossing is still in Cermak.!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4...

Dennis DeBruler commented on John's posting
An overview of this industrial spur crossing Cermak.
Dennis DeBruler commented on John's posting
This spur has not been used for a while because the city is not careful about keeping asphalt patches out of the flangeway.
Robert Jordan shared
I looked hard and couldn't see I posted before so I hope.... Anyway this was a fun line. Dodging traffic, in and out side streets and alleys, City traffic control people prairie wild flowers on the ROW. This scene is the cure for not remembering exactly where you took the photo.
Central Illinois Railroad 8/21/07
Rob Olewinski Cmraseye it was.....
Rob Olewinski Cmraseye I have been seeing the BNSF operating as far as the scrap yard between Ashland and Damen. The tracks east of Ashland are abandoned and mostly gone.
Robert Jordan That makes sense since most of East of Ashland was to get to their little compound. Going north from that little Y was a line up to the BN that looked very interesting but was OS when I got around there. There was that weird building siding just north of Cermak, I think there was a photo in the Album, think that was east of Ashland?
Rob Olewinski Cmraseye these tracks are gone. South of the 'compound' across Cermak was Universal Carloading (building still there). It was one of the original 'Q' freight houses, my father worked there most of his working career. That line running north to the yard was what fed the freighthouse.
Rob Olewinski Cmraseye Robert Jordan there were a few industries between Halsted and Ashland, ComEd used to get coal LONG ago as well. The track did continue east across Halsted almost to the River as well at one point.
Jeff Lewis Cool shot. You were looking north on Ashland at Cermak and Blue Island. That's St. Jude's steeple in the background. [Street View]
3D Satellite
This must have been the "Universal Carloading" building. The rest of the land south of "the compound" was a slip and port facilities.
1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP

Zaky Joseph posted
On a frigid cold snowy morning in January of 2009, we see the Central Illinois Railway picking up their cars which they received in interchange from the BNSF at Western Ave, including scrap cars going to Cozzi metals and covered hoppers for Domino Sugar. An ex BRC sw 1200 #1206 (repainted into Chicago Burlington and Quincy colors) and similar to the BRC paint scheme plus another CIRY switcher prepare to depart to go switching out these industries on the former Burlington Lumber District.
Franklin Campbell The other unit must have just been transferred from the Illinois Northern side.
[I was surprised that the trains were that long as recently as 2009. I just took several photos of Cozzi Recycling when I checked out the new 25th Street Overpass. They must have moved. I wonder where they were in Chicago. I could not see any rail spur for their Bellwood, IL, facility.]

Waldolf Ursine posted
#ThrowbackThursday back to 2011 . 2 Central Illinois switches parked in there small fenced in yard at Cermak and Canalport parked in storage just after the line shut down. Note how the stacks are covered in plastic. Today the rails have been pulled up and the row is being converted to a trail.

Five photos of a Central Illinois local working the area in 2008

Edward Flickr photos: coupling onto a 2007 freight train     two locomotives parked at headquarters  (source)

Update: a couple of comments on a posting by Shad Steve Vargo indicate these rails were regularly used in 2005 but are now being torn up.
Ray Carl I was just west of damen last night, looked like the rails have had some use recently. East of Ashland is being torn up.
Matthew James Goss I find this funny that you asked about this, I was just wondering today what had happened to this line. When I started off as an EMT in 2005 I used to see these trains along Cermak. I enjoyed watching them switch from the Steak N' Eggr by the old Fisk power plant.

A Flickr Album of 28 photos (source, they have now [March, 2018] torn up the track along Cermak east of Loomis.)