Monday, October 16, 2017

Rock Island 12th Street Piggyback Yard

(12th Street was renamed Roosevelt Road.)
Most of the views of Rock Island's freight house, which was on the east side of this piggyback yard are in Rock Island and NYC Freight Houses at La Salle Station. Those notes also contain photos of NYC's Flex-Van service because that yard was west of the NYC freight houses where NYC used to have their team tracks.

Rock Island built a piggyback yard between their LaSalle Station tracks and B&OCT's tracks.

Marty Bernard posted
5. CRIP U28B 263 and U33B 289 from the Roosevelt Road Viaduct, Chicago, IL on March 25, 1977. The camera is pointed south and a little west.

Before the Chicago River was straightened.
MWRD posted on Jan 2, 2023
Freight sheds for the Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railway located along the South Branch of the Chicago River on April 27, 1904. 

Dennis DeBruler commented on Marty's post
A nice view of Rock Island's 12th Street Piggyback Yard. It used to be their 12th Street Coach Yard.

Blackhawk Railway Historical Society posted with the comment: "One of the Rock Island's newly acquired GM Aerotrains, outbound at Roosevelt Road."

Mark Llanuza posted
Its 1977 with inbound rush hour train with a mix of Rock Island Bi Levels and Amtrak coaches with E-7 leading the way.
[Note the piggyback action in the background.]

John J Kulidas posted
Rock Island Rocket from Peoria nears Chicago 
La Salle Street Station.
May 1971 Photo by Robert Jordan.
Jimmy Flynn: Great picture! I especially appreciate the old TOFC’s, before the double stack days.
James Thornton: Jimmy Flynn several railroads ran TOFCs with passenger trains, including the Rock Island.
Martinez Rodrigues: The Rock Island E Unit leading it's train into Chicago and changing times. Rock Island would not become part of Amtrak, for it couldn't afford the entry fee. To the left ripped up and removed track leads to the many numerous abandoned railroad freight houses and docks. To the right glimpses of the future in TOFC flats with their trailers being lined up to pickup and load/unload trailers "Circus Style by ramps utilizing the Clijon Dolly trailer system

Marty Bernard posted
Even though RTA 104 is pushing, the train shouts Rock Island. July 3, 1978 shot from the Roosevelt Road Viaduct, Chicago.

Marty shared
Dennis DeBruler: This photo also shows that Rock Island turned their coach yard into a piggyback yard.

Marty shared
Rob Garst Sr: I worked in the meadow gold building 23/24 years ago installing new elevators and removing old ones. This is when they were making it condos.
Dave Hammer: Interesting shot. What is the deal with all of the TOFC next to it?
[I replied using Mark's and David's photos above.]

This is the first view I have seen of the yard from the B&OCT (West) side. The office part of the Erie freight house is in the right background.
American-Rails.com posted
Taken from Chicago's Roosevelt Road Bridge, Baltimore & Ohio RS1 #9186 totes a single baggage car along Grand Central Station's lead tracks on December 26, 1967. Roger Puta photo.
Bob Lalich There is so much to take in here! The Rock Island single TOFC car train looks to be a transfer. Wonder which of the eastern roads it went to? I remember seeing those outside braced cabooses around the area.
James Corbett Started out as a C&O Unit, switching Huntington WV.

Marty Bernard posted a photo with a different exposure
Baltimore & Ohio RS1 9186 and a baggage car near Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL. Photo taken from Roosevelt Road Bridge on December 26, 1967.
Note The Rock Island piggyback yard and coach yard with daytime layover commuter coaches and the leads to LaSalle Street Station.
A Roger Puta Photograph

Marty Bernard posted
1. Baltimore & Ohio RS-1 9186 near Grand Central Station, Chicago, IL. Photo taken from Roosevelt Road Bridge on December 26, 1967.
Roger Puta photo.
Brian A Morgan: The engine is facing Northbound on the station South leads near the Taylor Street tower and the Rock Island Junction track. This photo shoot is located roughly at 16th Place thirty yards from the lift bridge turn.
[Some comments discuss why trucks took over the LCL freight business.]


1938 Aerial Photo from ILHAP
The photo is facing southeast. Rock Island's tracks to the LaSalle Street Station would be on the other side of their piggyback yard. This photo turns out to be one of the best views I have seen of the piggyback yard. The tracks we see are the B&OCT tracks to the Grand Central Station. I always wondered what got torn down to make room for a piggyback yard because that is a rather late development in railroading. I now think RI got the old riverbed after the river was straightened and it became the piggyback yard. This 1938 aerial photo shows the new Chicago River channel along the left side and the old riverbed was still undeveloped.



Paul Enenback Flickr photos from 1968: looking northwestlooking southwest.


William Wozniak posted a question about the horror movie OmenII:Damien that had a scene made in this yard. George Lamore posted the clip.
Bill Molony posted
New York Central Railroad EMD E7A #4028, assisted by an E7B, leading an eastbound passenger train out of La Salle Street Station. Undated, but most likely circa 1965.
[The building in the middle is some remnants of a Rock Island Freight House. By 1965, LCL freight was killed by trucks. That is why Rock Island developed piggyback service to try to compete with trucks. Since the Interstate Highway system  was not yet ubiquitous, they stood a chance to compete with trucks.]

Bill Molony shared
Grand Central Terminal, Wells and Harrison, 1969

Brian Watt also posted
I found this picture on Pinterest ...Grand Central Station, 1969. This photo is part of a collection of historic Chicago photos from the archives of the Chicago Architecture Foundation (CAF). I find the background of this picture to be equally interesting.

Dennis DeBruler posted
I was updating my notes concerning freight houses that were in the South Loop and I came across this photo. It is worth sharing.

Of course we have the intended subject of the Grand Central Station and its huge clear-span train shed. But note the Rock Island tracks in their 12th Street Yard for piggyback service. Even more interesting is the land south of Roosevelt that has no tracks and is being used for trailer storage. This is the original route of the South Branch of the Chicago River. It was filled in after the South Branch was straightened. It doesn't have tracks because it is "new land" that was created decades after the tracks were laid for Grand Central Station, La Salle Street Station, and Dearborn Station. (The original reason for straightening the river, creating more north/south roads through the area, never happened. I had assumed the river was straightened to help navigation. But I learned that was not the case. Thinking some more about it, if a ship can get around Wolf Point, it can get around the curves that used to be in the South Branch.)

This is one of the photos where, the more you look, the more history you find. Note all of the fire protection water towers that were still on top of the buildings and the Chicago Housing Project buildings in the background. We have already discussed in thi group the conversion of the Meadow Gold Butter cold storage building into condos. I can't figure out what the smokestacks were for that are to the right of the "butter house."

Bill Molony posted
Rock Island EMD E9A #662, pushing two Pullman-Standard bi-level cars towards La Salle Street Station in July of 1972.
John Foster Its great to see a locomotive/ bi-level consist that matches liveries.
Mark Llanuza posted
Its the year 1975 overlooking the Rock Island Roosevelt yard in Chicago .By 2009 it was full of trees and deep weeds .So much more has changed since 2009 with more Town houses along Clark st and Roosevelt Rd at this same location i should go back again.

Mark posted again
Clifford Nickerson How did that one pole survive?
Steven J. Brown shared
Rock Island E8 650 arrives with one of the Rockets at Roosevelt Rd in Chicago - April 3, 1977.
Dennis DeBruler It also provides a new view of the Erie freight house and RI piggyback yard.
Matt McClure Looks so different today one would think the other side of the world. I like the signal bridge on the ex-CWI tracks leading toward moribund Dearborn Station.
Den Adler They weren't exactly putting out a train that enticed people into riding it.
Mark Llanuza posted
Its 1974 I'm on top of Roosevelt Rd bridge with eastbound over view of the Rock Island Roosevelt Rd piggy back yard in Chicago .I went back last week 2018 to line up my photo and only three tracks remain of the once very busy yard and what it used to be.
[The empty lot is where the B&OCT tracks that served Grand Central Station used to be. The B&O tearing down one of the better looking buildings in Chicago helped spur the development of Historic building lists. It is ironic that the land remained worthless for about a half-century. This view should be changing again because plans to develop it are finally being announced. At least they are mowing it so that it no longer a haven for undesirables. I would hate to think about how many rats use to live in the "wilderness" that used to be there.]
Steven J. Brown posted
Rock Island SW1 4804 (built 1946 as IC 9025, became Metra 2) with RTA F40PH 107 at Roosevelt Road in Chicago - Circa 1978.

William Brown posted
From the J Quinn Collection, RI 492 leads on a Train of 2400/2500 Series Commuter Coaches. The 492 is painted in the Material Services Red/Yellow Paint Scheme. The 492 is an Alco RS3 built for Suburban Services in November of 1951. It was Traded to EMD in August of 1970. The photo was taken in the Coach Yard behind the Freight House adjacent to Roosevelt Road in Chicago, Illinois. No photographer noted.
[The piggyback yard is in the background. Room is needed for just commuter coaches because intercity passenger trains are no longer run.]

Gary Sturm posted
[I put a red rectangle around a container gantry.]

Mark Llanuza posted
Its 1974 a dark cold winter day at Roosevelt Rd yard.
Rick Covert shared
RI passenger train with E-8 #644 at Chicago IL, July 1965.
Dennis Ryan Sr Photographer on that day in 1965 was Ted Ellis.
[Note the container loading in the middle of the photo.]
Mark Llanuza posted
eastbound pulls into Rock Island's Roosevelt rd yard with three E-units 1973
Dennis DeBruler Thanks for taking other scenes in addition to passenger trains entering and leaving the depot.

Dave Arganbright posted
The haphazard intermodal "facility" next to La Salle St. was a sloppy mess in 1978 (much like the rest of the railroad).  Here, on a surprisingly sunny day, SW8 832 is waiting for its next assignment.  Whenever I look at this picture I can't help but be reminded of the possessed locomotive scene in Damien Omen II, filmed here during the same year....🤔😱😂  My photo.
Paul Hopkins: the 12th st office was under the Wells st ramp which was condemned. I often at night shot rats with my .22
Tad Dunville: I assume this operation was closed about the same time the IC closer their ramp under the art museum. It’s crazy to think customers wanted their trailers delivered downtown, just to drive them out to the suburbs.

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