Paul Musselman posted four photos with the comment: "At "Seeger", a point on the CNW NW Line just east of Mt Prospect Rd., was where the O'Hare Line joined the NW Line...."
Dave Hammer: Now it’s the CP/UP New Line. This is where the UP freight line diverges onto the NW line. Still in use as well. [Actually, it is a connector (Norma Seeger Connection Subdivision) from the Harvard Subdivision/NW Line to the Milwaukee Subdivision/New Line.]
Junior Farmer: This was the double track wye that ran between the interlocking plants of Norma and Seeger . One track is named the Live Wye which was the preferred route of the trains and the other track was called the Dead Wye which was also connected at both ends into the Live Wye right before the interlocking plants. Hand throw switches connected the Dead Wye to the Live Wye .
The tracks I'm talking about connect the Milwaukee sub to the Harvard sub via Norma and Seeger interlocking plants . This is the line your pictures show .The Dead Wye switch was connected just north of Thacker to the Live Wye . There were two tracks off of it on this end to service the cement plant . The north end of the Dead Wye hooked back up to the Live Wye just short of the double track signal bridge at Seeger which has since been replaced by a single pole signal . We eventually moved that connection to a block south of Golf Road. The Live Wye was used for train movements while the Dead Wye was used ,among other things , for setting out the ex-DM&IR ore cars used specifically for hauling sand , to the cement company which is located between the Dead Wye , Milwaukee sub (formally New Line sub ),Thacker and Wolf Road. Norma interlocking plant is the connection of the Live Wye to the main line immediately south of Thacker . This was my territory for 37 years on this railroad .
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| 1 NW Hwy to left....view SE....O'Hare line is at right.. |
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| 2 O'Hare line coming from Des Plaines on right.. |
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| 3 Point where O'Hare line joins NW line..view to NW.. |
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| 4 Between Golf Rd. and NW Hwy......signal with 'Begin CTC' on O'Hare line...view towards NW line... |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Junior's comment So the upper-left corner of this excerpt is Seeger and the lower-left corner is Norma. The eastern track is the Dead Track. The cement plant looks closed. And the triangle of tracks near the right-center is the Deval Junction. The upper-corner crossing of Deval is built on an overpass over the Northwest Hwy. Junior Farmer: If you are referring to the east track of the double track curving off to the left as the Dead Wye , correct. The Live Wye is immediately to it's left. The double track curving off to the right is the Milwaukee subdivsion . Deval is misspelled on the map . There was also at one time a switch coming off the West end of the wye servicing a large printing company located just off the intersection of Wolf and Golf roads . |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Junior's comment on Junior's comment This 1980 version shows the industrial spur. The 1993 version has removed it. 1980 Arlington Heights Quadrangle @ 1:24,000 Your details about the Live and Dead Wye allow us to calibrate the accuracy of topo maps. All of the versions (1927, 1953, 1963, 1972, 1980, 1993 and 1995) show the double track, but none of them show the Dead Wye joining the Live Wye before it joins the Harvard Subdivision. |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Junior's comment on Junior's comment Thanks for the official name of "Milwaukee Subdivision" for what Paul is calling the O'Hare Line. I think of it as the New Line, even though it is now decades old. In fact, the "New Line" already existed in 1925, but with the original alignment that went south through what is now O'Hare. 1928 Elmhurst and 1927 Arlington Heights Quadrangles @ 1:24,000 |
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