Gary Sturm posted Rock Island #4905 is on the interchange track at Joliet Union Station in 1974. Bob Kalal NW2 4905 switcher ex-P&LE 8741, built 3/49. off of http://rrpicturearchives.net/locoList.aspx?id=CRIP&Page=8 J Pete Hedgpeth That track was known as the "Santa Fe Wye |
You seldom see pictures of this elevated connection let alone something using it. And this is the second connection for which I have seen a name. (The first one was the Jefferson Connection between BNSF/CB&Q and Metra/Pennsy.)
Halsted Pazdzior posted Here's something you don't see everyday. An inbound Metra waits to depart as a PTC train (Union Pacific GE's, Metra Bi-levels, METX 100) run the connection between the Rock Island and Heritage Corridor. 2/27/20 David Hanel I thought the only freight engines that can move the metra coaches were ones with self adjusting couplers or something? Harvey Kahler Heritage Corridor trains use the connection regularly to get in and out of the coach yard. Some RID or HC trains could be extended as far south as Braidwood in sw Will County. [I don't know what RID or HC trains are.] |
When I read the the high-speed rail plan between Chicago and St. Louis specifies the use of the former-Rock Island route between Joliet and Chicago, I asked what the speed limit of this connector is. (Currently the Amtrak trains use the Alton route between St. Louis and Joliet and continue on that route to Union Station.) The answer was that the speed limit is 10mph but the plan includes replacing this connector with a connector that would allow 25mph.
This gives me an excuse to revisit my Joliet folders to find pictures of this connector.
Here we have the Rock Island over pass, Union Depot Tower and Union Depot framed by the connector. As you can see, the connector has not had a lot of maintenance lately. If it is supposed to be replaced according to the high-speed rail plan, that would explain why Metra has been doing minimal maintenance on it.
This view is taken from the pedestrian underpass under the UP/MoPac/GM&O/Alton tracks looking east. It appears Rock Island built the part over Washington Street and GM&O built the part over York Avenue. I had never noticed that Metra sign before. Obviously the RI engineers preferred to build with steel whereas the GM&O engineers preferred concrete.
The view is south of the connector looking north and focuses on the GM&O part but also shows how the connector changes materials. The walkway is obviously a rather recent addition.
When I heard these engines, I ran back north of the connector to grab pictures of them. Of the four photos I took, I use this first one because it captures the curve of the connector. The engines were BNSF #4436 (C44-9W built 1-12/99) and #4960 (C44-9W built 2-12/98). Both of them have the H2 livery.
I am now down close to where the connector joins the UP/GM&O embankment looking north at the tower and the Rock Island overpass. I captured the curvature of the connector on the right.
Most railfan photos from Union Depot will be looking south along the UP+BNSF route or east along the Metra+CSX+IAIS route and won't catch the connector in the southeast quadrant. But I was taking a picture of the new and old signals and did catch the west end of the connector. It must still be used because there is a signal for it near the middle of the background.
In this wide angle looking east, I catch the rest of the connector. Below I zoom in on the photo. You can see the new walkway and part of the steel girder on the right.
If you compare the photo with the satellite image, you can also see that the connection with the Metra track has changed. Since they have moved the Metra-RI platform east of the diamond, they had to extend the connector to clear a commuter train setting at the platform. Since there used to be four tracks through here, there was plenty of room for the new track.
In this photo of the new diamond that had been recently installed, you can catch a glimpse of a concrete girder of the connector.
In this closeup of the construction activity down by the old signal bridge, you can see the connector track join the eastern UP/GM&O track.
Later, I got about the same view when I took a photo of a northbound (timecard eastbound) train to get a time stamp.
As I got closeups of the two Fallen Flags, you can see parts...
...of the connector in the background. BNSF #2814 and #2887.
They are both GP39M/GP39-2R.
Another similar view when I got the time stamp of the intermodal that rolled through while the above mixed freight rolled through. The intermodal skunked most of the more interesting freight cars, including a caboose. The intermodal was pulled by BNSF #7157, #8027, #7247, and #4502.
The engine of a Texas Eagle framed by the connector.
Metra does know how to do overpass maintenance. This photo was taken under their mainline overpass. The new overpass on the right is the one that holds the remaining Rock Island mainline track. The one on the left is the one that no longer holds any tracks except for the connector.
Art Gross Flickr of a 1972 photo of a Rock Island Alco C415 on the connector pulling a Monon boxcar. The foreground has the diamonds of the crossing. (source)
This gives me an excuse to revisit my Joliet folders to find pictures of this connector.
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This view is taken from the pedestrian underpass under the UP/MoPac/GM&O/Alton tracks looking east. It appears Rock Island built the part over Washington Street and GM&O built the part over York Avenue. I had never noticed that Metra sign before. Obviously the RI engineers preferred to build with steel whereas the GM&O engineers preferred concrete.
The view is south of the connector looking north and focuses on the GM&O part but also shows how the connector changes materials. The walkway is obviously a rather recent addition.
When I heard these engines, I ran back north of the connector to grab pictures of them. Of the four photos I took, I use this first one because it captures the curve of the connector. The engines were BNSF #4436 (C44-9W built 1-12/99) and #4960 (C44-9W built 2-12/98). Both of them have the H2 livery.
I am now down close to where the connector joins the UP/GM&O embankment looking north at the tower and the Rock Island overpass. I captured the curvature of the connector on the right.
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In this wide angle looking east, I catch the rest of the connector. Below I zoom in on the photo. You can see the new walkway and part of the steel girder on the right.
Satellite |
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In this closeup of the construction activity down by the old signal bridge, you can see the connector track join the eastern UP/GM&O track.
Later, I got about the same view when I took a photo of a northbound (timecard eastbound) train to get a time stamp.
As I got closeups of the two Fallen Flags, you can see parts...
...of the connector in the background. BNSF #2814 and #2887.
They are both GP39M/GP39-2R.
2814-2816 | 28274, 77 & 61 | 5,5,4/63 | Ex-BN GP39M 2814-2816 < BN 2213, 2216 & 2200 < nee GN 3013, 3016 & 3000 |
2887-2888 | 30170, 29730 | 7/65, 12/64 | Ex-BN GP39M 2887-2888 < SSW 6681 & SP 6504 < nee SSW 781 & 764 |
Another similar view when I got the time stamp of the intermodal that rolled through while the above mixed freight rolled through. The intermodal skunked most of the more interesting freight cars, including a caboose. The intermodal was pulled by BNSF #7157, #8027, #7247, and #4502.
The engine of a Texas Eagle framed by the connector.
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Jose Vicente Sendin shared |
I commented on Jose's share 20170219 7812rc Modern diamonds are bolted together with a lot more pieces. I assume then intent is that it is easier to replace parts that have worn. This is the crossing at Joliet Union Depot. The single tracks was the Rock Island and is now the Metra. The two near tracks are BNSF/Santa Fe and the far two tracks are UP/GM&O. The Rock Island used to have three more tracks here for a total of 16 diamonds. These four diamonds were prefabricated and moved in place one weekend in May 2015. |
I commented on Jose's share 20180326 0183 A bolt has already fallen out. |
I commented on Jose's share And another has broken. And this is what I saw in the close diamonds. There could have been other problems that I could not see from public propert |
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