Thursday, December 6, 2018

WNYP/NS/Pennsy 1930 Bridge over Allegheny River in Oil City, PA

(Bridge Hunter; no Historic Bridges; Bridge & TunnelsHAERSatellite)

WNYP = Western New York & Pennsylvania Railroad (leased from Norfolk Southern)

This bridge carried Pennsy's mainline between Pittsburgh and Buffalo. Most of that line has been abandoned, but one of the original two tracks that were on this bridge is still used by the WNYP.

July 1971. AERIAL RECONNAISSANCE II, ERIE RAILWAY SURVEY. - Pennsylvania Railroad, Allegheny River Bridge, River Street vicinity, Oil City, Venango County, PA

[It is Pennsy's roundhouse. Erie was on the other side of the river. My understanding of the comments on the following posting is that the modern building on this side of the old building was part of the shops building. The modern part was retained and repurposed as the Oil City Warehouse Mall.] 
Ron Stafford posted
Another view of the roundhouse and wye at Oil City. If one looks closely, BRIDGE Interlocking tower can be seen in the center of the wye along the north bank of the river.
Alex Bessetti What year was the tower demolished?
Ron Stafford If your asking about BRIDGE tower, it was closed in 1971...not sure what year it was removed.
Raymond Storey shared
Matt Savage posted
Jim Kissane posted

Larry Fink commented on Jim's post
Photo of what looks like maybe a turntable over-run, into Sage Run, likely taken from the pedestrian bridge. Date unknown.

Jim Kissane posted
This is a still active Parker through truss bridge over the Allegheny River on Pennsylvania Railroad. Location Oil City, Venango County, Pennsylvania
Approximate latitude, longitude +41.42238, -79.69809 (decimal degrees)
41°25'21" N, 79°41'53" W (degrees°minutes'seconds")
Approximate UTM coordinates 17/608791/4586464 (zone/easting/northing)
Appears on USGS topographic map of Oil City
The yard and roundhouse are gone but the line is still active.
Jim Kissane To best of my knowledge the other is the Keddie Wye in CA (IndustrialHistory)
Robert Eisenman I'll see your Through Truss Wye Bridge and raise you an 8 span Through Truss Wye span with an active lift span as well. Fall Bridge at Wishram, Wa, gateway to the Oregon Trunk Sub. (IndustrialHistory)
Richard Kiester Rankin, PA. Out of service. (IndustrialHistory)
Jim Kissane Brian, the tracks to the right went to (and beyond) the former USS Imperial Works (Oilwell Supply division, closed many years ago.

Patches Croteau shared
[Joe Granger posted a couple of photos of the bridge between Houghton and Hancok, MI, which is another wye-on-the-river bridge.]

Rich Fleischer posted

Carl Venzke posted
Pennsylvania Railroad, Allegheny River Bridge, River Street vicinity, Oil City, Venango County, PA - photo by Jack Boucher c 1968
Rob Nichols Overheads show single tracked now with the line heading to the upper left now abandoned.
Rick Fleischer Just out of the picture, to the left, was the Pennsylvania Railroad's roundhouse at Oil City, Pa.

Jim Kissane posted
[The comments include questions and answers that are too detailed for me to pursue Since PA is way out of my territory of interest. I mention the existence in case others are interested.]
Joe Dunlap commented on Carl's posting
Still there.
[The satellite caught the river at a higher water level.]
George Ford Jr commented on Carl's posting
Francis Otterbein shared
Kim Hughes From what I've read Pittsburgh has the most bridges and Pennsylvania's right up there as a state. Beautiful picture thank you.
[Comments indicate that there used to be a double crossover when both tracks were intact. Someone wants to know how to model guard rails in a turnout on a bridge.]
Matt Marshall This side of oil city was the PRR, the Erie came up the other side of the river.
Thomas Jameson Hard fitting a railroad in those river valleys!

Dennis DeBruler commented on Francis' share
One advantage of roundhouses is that they leave a very distinctive land scar. Since railroads a reluctant to clean up their polluted ground, you can still see where many of the roundhouses stood.,-79.../data=!3m1!1e3
Matt Marshall The warehouse mall in the pic was part of the shops.

Chris Spear commented on Francis' share with a photo from RRPictureArchives of a steam engine coming off the bridge.

Larry Zetterlind posted

Alex Dropps commented on Larry's post

Alex Dropps commented on Larry's post

Alex Dropps commented on Larry's post

Kelly Sandford Glover posted two photos with the comment: "The Wye Bridge crosses the Allegheny River at Oil City and Woodland Heights, PA. and carried the Pennsylvania Railroad’s Pittsburgh to Buffalo mainline. Although much of the route was abandoned in 1984 and 1989, the portion in Oil City is still in limited use by the Western New York and Pennsylvania Railroad (WNYP)."
Brian Luna: When I lived there the south side was 4 wide and as far as you could see oil tankers to and from pennzoil in rouseville.
Dan Young: When oil was discovered in Titusville and the surrounding area in 1869, the race was on to get to oil city. The Allegheny Valley Railroad (PRR) got there first, extending from Kittaning PA. The others raced to access from the north including the NYC, the Erie, And the Phila &Erie (PRR). The PRR was the ultimate winner, resulting in the Pittsburgh to Buffalo route. The Erie and NYC did get a piece of business from here too.
Larry Pratt: The WNYP operates a system centered on Olean, NY. The Southern Tier Extension heads east to the Norfolk Southern Railway's (NS' Southern Tier Line at Hornell and West to NS at Meadville, with a branch continuing to the Oil City area). Since 2007, the WNYP also operates the former Norfolk Southern Buffalo line from Driftwood, PA to Machias, NY. (from the company website)
Andre Tardif shared
Mike Tharan: Kinzua dam took out the northern ROW above Warren, PA...early1960s. The original runs north of Oil City were known among many as "Around then World". meaning up the river to Buffalo/Frontier Yard and down the Creek (Oil Creek) or vise versa. Up the creek - Oil City , Titusville, Spartansburg, Corry, Mayville/Chautauqua, Brockton, NY and north. The river route - Oil City, Tidioute, Irv, Warren, Salamanca, Olean, and north to Buffalo/Frontier Yard. The short version posted here.


Alex Dropps posted two photos with the comment: "Since I seen a post about the WYE bridge in Oil City, Pennsylvania (Hence why I join the group) here are a few pictures from 8 years ago in December."


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