Thursday, December 22, 2016

CRSA/(NYC+B&O)/(MC+LS&MS+B&O) Bridge over Rouge River

(Bridge Hunter3D Satellite)

CRSA is Conrail Shared Assets Operation. I know there is a lot of CRSA track in the New York area. This is the first time I have seen it in the Midwest. It means that the route is so important that NS and CSX agreed to share it when they split up Conrail. But Bridge Hunter labels this bridge as NS.

Peter Dudley shared
"J-3a No. 5411 at the River Rouge (MI) drawbridge on May 13, 1952, heading the CLEVELAND MERCURY toward Toledo (OH).
Photo by the late Ernest L. Novak." (slightly-edited, with a glaring mistake in the caption left intact).
Actually, the train was headed NORTH (from Toledo, toward Detroit). The location of the 1921 bascule bridge's pivot point (on the NORTH shore of the Rouge River) tells the tale.

C Hanchey Flickr via Bridge Hunter, License: Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial (CC BY-NC)

One of seven photos posted by Andrew Dean Detroit
Rt. Honorable Paul J. Martin unloading on the Rouge River, Detroit, Michigan.
Dennis DeBruler
It was unloading at St. Marys Cement.

Peter Dudley shared David Parker's photo
A southbound Conrail business train, led by ex - Erie Lackawanna E-8A No. 4022, crosses the 1921-vintage, former - New York Central River Rouge Bascule Bridge in Detroit, heading toward Toledo and Cleveland on April 27, 1983 (David Parker photograph)
Nolan Skipper LaFramboise II Peerless Cement in the background. Later known as St. Mary's Cement, I think

David saw a cab unit, I see a Strauss bascule bridge. And I'm glad Nolan noted that the silos are for cement. If it was just another locomotive photo, I would have passed it up. But I'm noticing the pattern that I can't pass up a movable railroad bridge photo.

Bing (below) has a much better 3D photo than Google does in this case. Both the bridge and the silos still exist.
Birds-Eye View

When Michigan Central and Lake Shore and Michigan Southern built these tracks, they were bitter competitors. In fact, that competition was the cause of the "crossing war" in Chicago. According to the SPV Map, after NYC bought them both, MC+B&O tracks were used for southbound traffic and the LS&MS+B&O tracks were used for northbound traffic.

When someone asked if this was the former Wabash Bridge, Peter responded:
Peter commented on his posting
This bridge was built for Michigan Central Railroad (M.C.R.R.) in 1921. It replaced an older swing bridge on the same site. It's currently operated as part of Conrail Shared Assets // Detroit.
The former - Wabash bascule bridge (currently owned and operated by Norfolk Southern Railway) is located farther upstream, near the Fisher Freeway (I-75) Rouge River Bridge, west of Forman Park. That bridge replaced a swing bridge, which crossed the Rouge just downstream from the future freeway bridge site. A siding, running east toward Delray (paralleling the northbound I-75 lanes), still defines the original (1881) Wabash mainline right-of-way.

Tim Shanahan shared a Joseph Cermak share of Mtnblimberjoe Rail Photography post
A CN SD60 leads auto train A401 as it makes its way through Detroit, Michigan over Conrail Shared Assets, crossing over the Rouge River on the Detroit Line's lift bridge. In the background, the Sea Eagle II tug holds a cement barge in place as it unloads.
CRCX Detroit Line
Detroit, MI
CN A401 (Battle Creek, MI to Lang Yard - Toledo, OH)
CN 5407 SD60 Ex. GMTX 9035, EMDX 9035, OWY 9035 Blt. 1986
CN 5711 SD75I Blt. 1996

Craig Hensley Photography post
Norfolk Southern Corp intermodal train 21N crossing the Conrail bascule bridge that spans the River rouge. The structure of this bridge is incredibly fascinating to me, especially how the cement counter weight is shaped to allow rail traffic through. From what've gathered, this bridge is operated remotely from Mount Laurel, NJ.
Tech: DJI Mavic Air 2s
Symbol:NS 21N (Livernois Yard - Detroit, MI (CSAO) to Rickenbacker Yard - Columbus, OH
Engine/s: NS #9778 (GE C40-9W) NS #1101 (EMD SD70ACe)
Date: 5/10/21 650p
Location: River Rouge Conrail bridge, Detroit. Michigan
Craig Hensley Photography shared
Craig Hensley Photography shared
Joe Dockrill shared
Roger Riblett shared
Craig Hensley Photography shared
Nick Giordano: Nice photo. But, why would a railroad bridge in Michigan be operated from New Jersey?
Craig Hensley Photography
Great question, I'm not sure entirely the reasoning for it, but I found that it was requested by the owner/operator of the bridge. The article can be found here:
Craig Harris: Nick Giordano The bridge is technically a Conrail Shared Assets structure. The little light gray spot on the lower left of the photo is where the bridge tower was. The NS, like a lot of modern companies wants to get rid of employees that they view as obsolete and technology let them do it. I worked there on and off for many years and it was the last job I worked on the railroad before I retired.

Dennis DeBruler commented on Tim's share
The silos that were next to the tracks have evidently been removed in the last few years.

Craig Hensley Photography posted
Open Sesame
The conrail bridge was open, and well I had to get a shot of this rare occurrence. The drone looking down perspective can be so cool sometimes.
Tech: DJI Mavic Air 2s
Date: 8/5/21
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Craig Hensley Photography shared

The removal of the control tower must have been rather recent because it still shows up in a satellite image.

Andrew Dean Detroit posted
CSL Assiniboine unloading at St. Mary’s in Detroit.   Rouge River   10-1-2021
Andrew Dean Detroit posted
Oberstar Lighting up the Rouge river to a green glow.

Craig Hensley Photography posted
Industrial Detroit
I went down to the Rouge to get a picture of the M/V John J Boland, which you can see unloading in the top left side of the frame. I wasn't sure exactly where the ship was, so threw the drone up on a scouting mission, and boom CN going south on the NS bridge.
Symbol: CN ???
Tech: DJI Mavic Air 2s
Date: 12/17/21
Location: Detroit, Michigan

3D Satellite
1 of 6 photos posted by Andrew Dean Detroit
Been awhile since I have spotted the Saginaw on the Rouge River. She was looking good in the morning light, just after unloading.
Detroit, Michigan

Screenshot @ 1:08
The Iver Bright in the turning basin, and heading out of the Rouge River, Tugs Wisconsin and Wyoming assisting.
Detroit Michigan
[This video starts with the ship being turned upstream in the turning basin. Comments discuss when are tugs used on the Rouge River. The answer is captain's experience rather than the existence of bow thrusters because Scott Wake posted three photos of ships using tugs even though they all had bow thrusters.
10 photos of that trip]

3 of 10 photos posted by Andrew Dean Detroit with the comment: "A series of tight squeezes. Lee A Tregurtha  traverses out of the Rouge River. Lee is the longest ship to pass through the Rouge, it’s amazing to see the ship slip down between another ship in such tight quarters."



A 2017 Flickr photo that includes the G-Style (tight triangular color lights) Signal Heads and the bridge control tower.

A 1982 Flickr photo that includes the interlock tower. (source)
Peter DudleyPeter and 1 other manage the membership, moderators, settings, and posts for Detroit - Area Railroad History. Southbound Conrail (CR) No. 3287 crosses the Rouge River, Detroit MI, September 1982. The two Diesel-electric units were running south to River Rouge Yard with light power for a southbound train.
The tower (left) controls the 1921 bascule bridge over t
he channel, used by Great Lakes bulk freighters accessing Ford Motor Company's River Rouge Complex in Dearborn (KR-64 slide, shot by Charlie Whipp).
The current bridge replaced an earlier swing bridge on the same site.

Jim Jorgensen The bridge was hit this past week by a tug boat [commented May 25, 2018]

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