Friday, March 10, 2017

KB&S/NYC/Big4 Bridge over Kankakee River in Aroma Park, IL

(no Bridge Hunter, 3D Satellite)
Mark Hinsdale posted
Picking up interchange cars from Canadian National at Kankakee.
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They seem to be using a tank car instead of a covered hopper car as the buffer car between the engines and the PROCOR tankers. Or maybe it is a mixed freight that has a bunch of tankers at the beginning. The PROCOR cars have a black and white Placard. It is not flamable, because the card would be reddish. It is not explosive because that is orange. Black and white cards are things like inhalation hazard, poison, toxic, corrosive, or marine pollutant. (BTW, Inhalation Hazard will require PTC routes in the future.)

This Kankakee, Beaverville, & Southern/NYC/Big Four bridge seems to have escaped the attention of the Bridge Hunters as well as mine.

Sam Carlson posted
On November 10, 1994, three KB&S RS11s cross the Kankakee River in Aroma Park, IL.
[He posted all three photos below and asked for opinions. Since this group is public, I'll let you read the comments yourself.]
Sam Carlson posted three photos with the comment:
Here we have the KB&S crossing the Kankakee River in Aroma Park, IL on October 10, 1994. The first one is as the train starts across the river, with ducks on the water. The next shot is in the middle of the bridge. The third photo shows the train crossing over while a father and son fish from the bank. Which one is best - ducks, middle, or fishers? And, why?
Rob Scrimgeour The first photo is probably closest to a traditional railfan photo. I like the angle to the train, and the scene overall. The ducks seem to me to be more of a distraction than a good addition. Similarly, the greenery in the bottom centre seems distracting, while the branches in the lower right fit well. Finally, the lead locomotive merges a bit with the trees, as they are both the same height.

The second image seems the least dramatic to me. No real angle to the train, yet not a flat broadside. The lead locomotive's nose separates from the background much better than the first image. The greenery in the lower left and the bright bridge pier on the very left are both a bit distracting to me, but these could disappear with a tiny crop off the left.

The third image is the only one that really has a story to it. The story might be stronger if the fishers were more prominent. It would definitely be stronger if the train wasn't as far into the scene. If the lead locomotive was 1/3 to 1/2 way into the image there would be more chance it would look like the fishers are looking at the train, and the two points would likely balance better. Finally, the lead locomotive is merging into the trees again.

Of these images I'd likely prefer the first. I'd probably crop it into a panoramic shape to remove the distracting greenery at the bottom and some of the excess sky.

Be aware, my comments are based on viewing on my small phone screen.

Thanks for sharing.
Mike Tisdale I'll go for the ducks as you also got some fall color in the photo and gave it more of a sense of place. The fishermen are a nice touch, but a bit small to be a really significant element of the photo. I do that too, see something in a scene and think it will be a good feature of the photo, only to sometimes realize that when I see the photo on a monitor that what I noticed in real life is a tiny speck on the overall photo.
Sam Carlson To tell you the truth, I didn't see the fishermen when I copped the shot. I didn't notice them til I got the shot back.
Dennis DeBruler Sam Carlson I think the key thing is what I have seen you advocate in other forums: take advantage of the economics of digital photography and shoot early and often. It is nice to have the "problem" of having to pick the best shot. It is the first photo that caught my eye. But I'm not experienced enough to explain why I like it. I'm also learning for the other comments.




Sam commented on his post
20 shots later, we got this one. One of the units was put on the rear so they could switch a facing point siding. It was a great day!

Bill Molony shared
Kankakee County Museum Photo Archive
Rich Westerman This bridge is now owned by KBS.

Steve Drassler also posted
Photo from the Kankakee Daily Journal archive of an eastbound Big 4 passenger train crossing the Kankakee River at Aroma Park, IL long before the James Whitcomb Riley streamlined service began in 1941. This train would have stopped a few minutes earlier at the Kankakee Big 4 depot, mentioned in an earlier post.
Steve commented on his post
Here's a view now, sans train, looking the other way. KBSR still has a regular interchange with the CN (ICRR) at Kankakee. Not every day but frequently.

Caption: “KB&S train rolls south across the Kankakee River bridge in Aroma Park, Illinois. This was actually two trains in one. They combined the cars and power in Kankakee before departing south. You can see the headlight of the second unit just off the end of the bridge.”
Kankakee, Beaverville & Southern Railroad
Aroma Park, Illinois
December 26, 1994
Photo by Barry Lennon

Junior Hill posted
SB KB&S train returning from Kankakee crosses the Kankakee River at Aroma Park, IL.11/15/2011

Junior Hill posted

Kenny posted six photos of the bridge.

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