|Carl Venzke posted|
Loading wooden barrels in a CNW boxcar
[This picture appears to be taken long after tank cars were invented for the transport of oil. The barrels are probably carrying "food quality" liquids. Lining the inside with glass to make a "food quality" tank car probably happened later.]
With the discovery of oil, so much liquid (oil) needed to be shipped that the Densmore brothers got the idea of putting tanks on a flatcar because you could pour liquids into them. Vat cars continued to be used for pickles. The railroad suppliers were experienced in making wooden tanks held together with steel straps, they were called water towers and were used to refill a steam locomotive's tender. For example, Kinmundy and Centralia.
|Chicago & North Western Historical Society posted|
Many farmers even in South Dakota where this photo was taken grew more than grain crops. Here small cucumbers are being loaded on a "pickle car" which will be hauled into Chicago by the C&NW to be made into pickles. The photo was made at the request of the C&NW publicity department some time in the 1930s. "Squire Dingee" had pickling plants all over the Midwest in those days
|Ted Curphey posted|
Halliburton Drilling Mud cars near Kirk, OR in 2017
The railroad industry learned how to make metal cylinders for the boiler on a steam locomotive. So someone left the decking off a flatcar and mounted a cylinder on the car's frame. They added a dome on top to allow for expansion of the fluid and to provide a flat surface for the access hatch and safety valve.
|Dennis DeBruler posted|
A 1943 Jack Delano OWI Photo: "Chicago, Illinois. An oil train from the Southwest leaves an Illinois Central Railroad yard for the Pennsylvania railroad to be sent on to the east"
[I just discovered that the Library of Congress does not create permanent links. Bummer!]
|Dennis DeBruler posted|
A 1942 Jack Delano OWI Photo taken in an Illinois Central yard in Chicago.
|Excerpt from a 1943 Jack Delano OWI Photo, LC-DIG-fsa-8d24311|
|1943 Jack Delano OWI Photo, LC-USW3-019332-D|
Philadelphia, PA 05-01-2017 BLT 05-1957." It is new enough to be welded, but old enough that it still has a frame.
Tank car designs evolved to be longer and offer different types of linings so that more liquid products could be shipped by tank cars. A contemporary tank car can easily carry the max weight allowed on tracks, 286,000 pounds, because the reason now for making the steel plate thicker is to prevent punctures when there is a derailment or failure when it has been setting in a fire for a while. The tank car pictured above is an intermediate safety design because it has a half-height head shield. The newest design no longer has a head shield because the end cap is made of thicker steel plate.
Because it took a while to develop the linings needed to protect steel, some products used wood tank cars long after oil had moved to metal cars.
|Don Gerdts posted|
HJ Heinz in Muscatine would have received these.
Standard Brands (SBIX) Vinegar tank cars had long lives, surviving into the late 1960s. The entire tank was made of wood, which was unusual for cars past 1900, but the nature of the vinegar dictated it be the case.
David Hill Saw many wooden wine haulers at a warehouse on the Minnesota Transfer railroad in the 1960s.
A recent development in liquid transportation is containerization. Dennis DeBruler posted two photos with the comment:
In a westbound intermodal train on BNSF in Downers Grove, IL, on 5-29-17 I saw my first container compatible tanks.They were in the piggyback part of the train instead of the double-stack deep well part. The second tank had a placard: 1993: 131 Compound, cleaning liquid (flammable)One can tell the containers are compatible with international shipping, 20' and 40', because they don't fill the spine car, which is designed for trailers and domestic 53' containers.
|Dennis DeBruler posted|
I normally ignore black GATX tankers. But I noticed GATX has let the paint not only fade, but peel, on this car. This is the first time I have seen significant rust spots on a tanker in interchange service. And the rust is happening in the top middle where the compression stress would be the highest. Steel's failure mode is buckling under compression stress. Furthermore, the spots are near the top where holes further reduce the strength of the tank.
It last qualification date was 2007. That means it is due for requalification in 2017. It is DOT 111A100-W-1, which I think means it has the old safety design. (However, many of the recent oil tanker derailments that had problems were using the new, "safer" design.) So I suspect they plan to scrap this car in 2017 anyhow.
I just noticed it is directly coupled to the engine (no buffer car) and the placard diamond is empty. (Edit, per a comment, I realize I had a brain burp. Not all GATX cars carry hazardous materials. Since the placard is empty, there is no need for a buffer car or "safer" cars.)
In an eastbound TP&W east of Gilman, IL on Nov 22, 2016.
Ralph Baker Dennis - I'd agree with you, but first is it accepted that this car is NOT the funnel type for thick hot liquids ?? GATX cars are leased to many firms where the contents are not singularly identified, so I can't judge the matter based on the rust effects. The car does APPEAR to be the funnel type....
Dennis DeBruler I take pictures of tank cars because I'm trying to learn about them. What is a funnel type? You reminded me that not all tank cars carry flammable liquids. In fact, this car does not have a placard, so the contents should not be a hazard. There is no need to carry corn syrup, etc., in "safer" cars.
Ralph Baker Funnel tank cars are intentionally constructed with the center being lower than the ends. Thick liquids like motor oil, corn syrup, etc., are slower to drain than water, liquid chlorine, etc, so are best transported in funnel-bodied tanks.
Hunter Wilson This car was built by trinity industries and looks to be a 23 under frame which would make it around a 90-99 built car. I highly doubt they would scrap this car. It is a jacketed car with fiberglass insulation. The rust spot is just jacket corrosion not on the actual tank. Easily repairable and if it's the one spot only about a $500 fix.
|Jerry Jackson posted|
How many weeks until plantin' begins? A friendly farmer waits for the DPU on this eastbound train to pass, Chadwick, IL Spring of 2013.
[Jerry must have edited his comment based on Tony's comment.]
Tony Creamer Those aren't oil tanks...... they're ADM food-grade cars....... I'm thinking FAK [Freight-All-Kinds] train.
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|Brian Wilton posted|
NATX 260 004 76' 4 comp. 25,611 gal. Couldn't find any more info on it,build date,etc,etc.. at Calgary Ab 1/26/19
David Luyster Xylene placard
|Jerry Jackson updated|
This was shot in the Milwaukee Road (Bensenville) yard in Franklin Park, IL at Franklin Ave and Wolf road. About 30 years ago.