C&WI leased the western part of this yard to Erie. That part was called the Erie 51st Street Yard.
Bob Lalich commented on a post:
Bob Lalich commented on a post:
C&WI serviced the trains of the five owner roads at 49th St Coach Yard beginning in 1904. When Dearborn first opened in 1885, Taylor St Yard was the coach yard, immediately south of the platforms. To relieve congestion as trains got longer and more trains were added, a new coach yard was built at 18th St in 1893 which included shop facilities. The owner roads serviced their trains in this period. 18th St soon ran out of capacity and was replaced by the coach yard at 49th St.C&WI using this yard to support the coaches for the passenger trains for all five of its owners (C&EI, GTW, Wabash, Erie, and Monon). I put a red rectangle around the C&WI 47th Street Depot that was just north of 47th Street.
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| David Druszka commented on Adam Pratt's posting |
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| Bob Lalich commented on Adam Pratt's posting |
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| 1938 Aerial Photo at file resolution from ILHAP |
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| American-Rails.com posted Erie Lackawanna E8A #816 is at the 51st Street Station in Chicago with the "Lake Cities" during April of 1964. Marty Bernard collection. Bill Molony shared Bob Lalich:The location is 47th St station. Wabash 47th St Yard in the background. [Since the photo has diesels, it appears this yard was both a C&WI coach yard and a Wabash freight yard. So which railroad used the roundhouse? (Update: a comment below by Bob explains that Wabash used a yard between 40th and 47th and Erie leased tracks from this yard for its freight operations. Wabash having a yard between 40th and 47th is consistent with some maps I have seen.)] |
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| Bill Molony posted The Monon's southbound "Hoosier" passing the C&WI's 47th Street Station. |
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| Dennis DeBruler commented on Bill's post The trees have pretty well hidden the station remnants. The recessed wall was the bottom of the station. It looks like the yard is now used for container storage. https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8079484,-87.6365358,81a,35y,355.94h,71.24t/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en |
Matthew James Goss shared a video.
Frank Skrzecz I work at these yards. The really old Mi Jack side loader had a hydro leak and all the fluid got sucked into the turbo. Operator jumped out just in time. Two yard hostler trucks and two containers were also burned up. The one container in the spreader was loaded with mayonnaise which leaked all over the place.
Dennis DeBruler I like that you explained what happened. I, of course, don't like what happened. So the exhaust pipe started shooting flames. Which way does the exhaust pipe point such that it torched two trucks and two containers?
Frank Skrzecz These lift machines hold a lot of fuel and hydro. In this case, hydraulic fluid got sucked into the turbo and caused a fire after a hydro line blew. The fire grew and the full tank of diesel ruptured and spilled flaming diesel all over the area. The machine had a container in the spreader that a hostler truck brought from the yard. Another hostler driver came up from the north attempting to put the fire out with an extinguisher but it was already too out of control and that truck was caught up in the fire too.
Dennis DeBruler I never thought of a turbo diesel as dangerous, but a ruptured fuel tank would explain it. I have seen photos of modern combines go up in smoke because the fuel tank is plastic, close to the engine, and there is chaff all around.
Frank Skrzecz This particular model of lift machine is a Mi Jack 90 Series RT. I’ve operated these before. They were built from the late 90s to mid 2000s and have seen their fair share of work by now. The bad thing is the sloped front deck where the turbo and generator sit exposed with hydro lines running up to the mast. When one ruptures and the machine isn’t shut down in time, this can happen. A newer Linde reach stacker went up in flames a few years ago here due to the same scenario, but thankfully was parked away from other equipment. What was really bad here was the machine had its spreader attached to a container it was about to load, which was in turn attached to a hostler truck and chassis. All right next to a rail car with other containers loaded nearby.
Joe and Frank talk about units shutting down automatically if they overheat before "anything major happens," but that some don't.
Frank Skrzecz I work at these yards. The really old Mi Jack side loader had a hydro leak and all the fluid got sucked into the turbo. Operator jumped out just in time. Two yard hostler trucks and two containers were also burned up. The one container in the spreader was loaded with mayonnaise which leaked all over the place.
Dennis DeBruler I like that you explained what happened. I, of course, don't like what happened. So the exhaust pipe started shooting flames. Which way does the exhaust pipe point such that it torched two trucks and two containers?
Frank Skrzecz These lift machines hold a lot of fuel and hydro. In this case, hydraulic fluid got sucked into the turbo and caused a fire after a hydro line blew. The fire grew and the full tank of diesel ruptured and spilled flaming diesel all over the area. The machine had a container in the spreader that a hostler truck brought from the yard. Another hostler driver came up from the north attempting to put the fire out with an extinguisher but it was already too out of control and that truck was caught up in the fire too.
Dennis DeBruler I never thought of a turbo diesel as dangerous, but a ruptured fuel tank would explain it. I have seen photos of modern combines go up in smoke because the fuel tank is plastic, close to the engine, and there is chaff all around.
Frank Skrzecz This particular model of lift machine is a Mi Jack 90 Series RT. I’ve operated these before. They were built from the late 90s to mid 2000s and have seen their fair share of work by now. The bad thing is the sloped front deck where the turbo and generator sit exposed with hydro lines running up to the mast. When one ruptures and the machine isn’t shut down in time, this can happen. A newer Linde reach stacker went up in flames a few years ago here due to the same scenario, but thankfully was parked away from other equipment. What was really bad here was the machine had its spreader attached to a container it was about to load, which was in turn attached to a hostler truck and chassis. All right next to a rail car with other containers loaded nearby.
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| Frank Skrzecz commented on a share Photo was taken by one of my drayman buddies. |
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| Bill Molony posted The Chicago & Western Indiana performed switching duties for all of the railroads using Dearborn Station except the Santa Fe. Shown here is C&WI class J-2 2-6-0 Mogul-type #213 in this undated photograph coupled to two Wabash Railroad heavyweight chair cars at the C&WI's 49th Street coach yard. These cars were assigned to the Wabash passenger trains operating between Chicago, Decatur and St. Louis. [I added 49th in parens in the title because of this comment. If there are two separate yards in this area, 49th for CW&I passenger coach servicing and 47th Street, then I don't know the function of 47th Street and where the boundary is between the two.] |
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| Steven J. Brown posted Bob Lalich This is 47th St on the former C&WI. The GT line joined the C&WI here. There was a former Wabash yard west of the main tracks between 40th and 47th Sts. The Erie/EL leased yard tracks from C&WI south of this junction and C&WI had an adjacent coach yard. |
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| Eric Berg posted Southbound C&EI #93 or 95, the "Georgian Hummingbird" at Chicago (10-31-1965, Chuck Zeiler photo) Bob Lalich 47th St [Note the Pennsy caboose on the right.] |
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