Thursday, January 7, 2016

CB&Q's Clyde (Cicero) Yard and Roundhouse, La Vergne Tower

(see below for satellite images)

Steven J. Brown posting
Power move in the Burlington Northern Clyde Yard
at La Vergne Tower. Berwyn, IL - June 4, 1991.
Clyde Yard is BNSF/BN/CB&Q's big yard in Cicero, IL. I have driven past it, but they have put up a fence around it and posted the parking lot as No Trespassing. Judging from the satellite image below, I could try walking on Laramie Ave. bridge and get shots of the east side. But all I would get is shots of yet another intermodal yard. The satellite image is much more interesting. In fact, I see there still exists a 4-stall roundhouse! So I also got a closeup of the engine servicing facilities. A 1938 aerial photo indicates the round house used to be 180-degrees.
One of two photos posted by Richard Koenig
Despite being some of the worst negatives I happen to have saved, here’s some commuter action on the CB&Q racetrack. The bi-level train is outbound just west of Cicero, Illinois, at what is now called LaVergne. And I think I'm going to catch hell from you all, but here goes...
Both images are made from the Illinois Central Railroad overpass. As I look back at this—the act of trespassing on an active railroad bridge to gain a vantage point simply for a photograph—I’m astounded at the foolhardy nature of this dangerous act. I have no memory of doing this or how I came to be atop the bridge. It is a wonder that I was not arrested (as one would be today, very quickly) or killed (which could also happen very easily).
Two images by Richard Koenig; taken in the mid- to late-1970s, then but a reckless teenager, apparently thinking that he was immortal.
John Mann Tower was tall to see over the IC tracks. This was the west tower of Clyde Yard right off of Ridgeland in Berwyn.

Satellite
Bird's Eye View
1938 Aerail Photo from ILHAP
Update:
eyepilot13 Flickr 1989 Photo
CY Laramie Br 3 4-21-89
4/21/89: Another view in the series of Cicero Yard before it became an intermodal terminal...Here is a west facing view from the Laramie Ave. Bridge showing the yard office and hump tower (long gone) as well as a BN bus! Note the GT open topped auto-rack! 
An EPXIII quality negative scan!
[One of 116 photos of the yard in a Flickr Album. Note the wheeled gantries in the left background. That part of the yard has already been converted to intermodal service.]

Mike Wyatt posted
BN 2288 parked on the front side of the hump. BN 1590 on the South Rundown. Spring 1995.
[I saved this photo because it provides a closeup of the tower.]
Mike Wyatt posted
Chris Keating: When did they convert it to an intermodal yard?
Mike Wyatt: I wanna say 1997.

David M Laz posted
The famous BNSF Cicero yard
[Pierre Brooks Metoyer also posted this photo.]
James Ashby posted
BNSF Cicero Yard (Chicago Area) from the air in March 2006. This image is looking West (Bottom) to East and was captured from a commercial flight taking off, from nearby Midway Airport. The road passing over the yards is Laramie Avenue.
Joe Skorupa The yard was probably created to serve Western Electric, Hawthorn Works that made switchboards & employed more than 25,000. They lost more than 800 employees when the SS Eastland rolled at the dock on the Chicago River, July 14, 1915.
Dennis DeBruler This yard served all of CB&Q's Chicagoland customers. It used to serve 500 industries east of Aurora. Of course, WE was one of the bigger ones. WE had its own railroad, Manufacturers Junction: https://industrialscenery.blogspot.com/.../manufacturers...

Marty Bernard posted two photos with the comment: "Two CB&Q Gems from Roger Puta's Reject Box
These aged slides needed considerable coxing. I doubt either were very projectable. The captions are Roger's."
Marty Bernard shared
Timothy Leppert I remember turning locomotives on that table when I first hired out at 18. You can put 3 of the those SW's on the table at one time.....The foot-boards hung off the end, but cleared the rails.
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1. CB&Q Clyde Roundhouse showing assorted Geeps and switchers. The tenders of 4960 and 5632 are at the right, Cicero, Illinois on August 22, 1962.

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2. CB&Q O5-B 4-8-4 5632 and O1-A 2-8-2 4960 with SD24 freight unit in the Clyde roundhouse, Cicero, Illinois on August 22, 1962.
Don Crimmin Note that 4960 was still in her "dolled-up" state with the whitewall tires and silver running board edges. I rode behind both engines on November 18, 1962 and the "bling" had thankfully been removed from the old freight hog by that time. And her smokebox had been properly graphited.

Edward Kwiatkowski posted
The former Burlington Northern Railroad Clyde Yard in Cicero Illinois. June 1985.Mike Croy When I was a switchman at Corwith, I would occasionally catch the job that made a nightly delivery to the “Q” at Cicero yard. The train was generally short, consisting of LCL boxcars released of of the freight houses. It sure was a busy place in those days.
Timothy Leppert This was called the valley, a classification yard. Eastend Tower is still there, but the Ogden Avenue bridge is gone.
John Davis I noticed, no graffiti on the box cars!
I zoomed in on the Ogden Bridge.

Dave Creighton posted the following two photos.

The Clyde Roundhouse back when it was part of the C B & Q.

Taken at Clyde.
There is a Facebook Page for Clyde.

One of the photos posted by Dave Rogers

The following screenshots are from a video posted on that page with the comment: "While you were sleeping. .... we were spinning motors on our 100+ year old turntable!"


Screenshot from video
[Note they don't bother to center the motor. In fact, it is mostly on one side. There is a man in front that is "driving" the turntable.]

Screenshot from video
[From a satellite image, you can see they now have four usable stalls. It looks like they used to have 29 stalls.]


BNSF Railway's World Famous Clyde Roundhouse posted

BNSF Railway's World Famous Clyde Roundhouse posted
BNSF Railway's World Famous Clyde Roundhouse posted

BNSF Railway's World Famous Clyde Roundhouse posted
Steven J. Brown posted
BN 9906 westbound at LaVergne Tower, Berwyn, Illinois - June 4, 1991.
Dave Creighton shared two photos from BNSF Railway's World Famous Clyde Roundhouse's post with the comment: "First one we've seen so far here in Cicero."

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Mike Wyatt posted
Mike Wyatt It was the day of the Cubbie parade downtown.
Joseph Robert LeMay I know! I remember passing the train in the yard on my way downtown and positing that it was in the yard to make sure Main 3 stayed open east of Cicero for the extra dinkies.
Rob Olewinski Cmraseye posted
Milwaukee 261 on the east end of Clyde Yard, Cicero, IL on 8/29/98, sliding under the Ogden Ave. overpass being dismantled. K64
Also a comment by George on his post
George Panattoni posted five photos with the comment:
I was raised crossed the street (Ogden Ave) from the CB&Q Clyde Yard in Cicero, IL and used to sit and look out the front window of my my mom's tavern and watch the old steam engines work the yard. I have some vary rare photo's of that time period. That's me back in 1949 with my mom, we were headed to Navy Pier to see the Chicago RR Fair.
Timothy Leppert Is that Laramie Av bridge?
George Panattoni Yup! Laramie and Ogden Aves. The state bought my mom's tavern to build the Cicero Centennial Bridge in 1956. She had owned the tavern since 1936. Her tavern was called "Over the Hump" named for the bridge, later the "Q" did build a Hump Yard and people get confused, but the "Hump" was built long after the Laramie Ave bridge was torn down.🙂
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George commented on his post
Dismantling the old Laramie Ave bridge in 1955😢

George commented on his post
Ogden Ave Bridge over the East side of the Clyde yard.

George commented on his post
View from inside the East end of the Clyde Yard with the Ogden Ave bridge in the background

Jerry Bragiel posted two photos with the comment: "Look what I found...in BNSF formerly Burlington Northerns Cicero, Illinois Yard. Fully functional turn table,and 6 stalls of the formers round house..."

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Rodney G. Skinner posted
1956 Fruehauf trailer
Chicago, ILL.
Flatcar built 1930 is marked 45 foot, semi trailer must be a 35 footer
[I'm guessing this photo was taken at Clyde Yard.]
Bill Molony posted
An eastbound Illinois Central passenger train passing over the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy main line in Berywn - circa 1965.
Nick Hart posted
One for the Burlington Northern fans!
Switching duties at the east end of Clyde are handled by two units that are most definitely familiar with this yard. GP38-2 2286 is in charge of a string of piggybacks, while SD60M 1461 handles stacks. Pretty neat to see two Cascade greens in the same scene on separate trains. It's been nearly five years since I shot an SD60M in BN paint.
Cicero, IL   04-09-19


These are a couple of several photos of the west throat of the yard that I took when I visited LaVergne.
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Dave Creighton posted
Where the really really old meets the old: The Historic Clyde Locomotive Roundhouse Shop. The remnants of the original roundhouse structure are on the left complete with original glass windows and the newer but still pretty darn old diesel shop is to the right. Image taken from the 805 lead north and east of mechanical limits. Images taken on 7/8/19 @ 1645 CST.

Halsted Pazdzior posted
Persistence Pays Off. After almost giving up and going home, K16119 with a SD70AC in charge enters the east end of Cicero Yard.
7/21/19
Cameron Applegath What are those pads for?
Thomas Truschka They grease the flanges to cut down squealing as the train moves through turns.
Matthew S. Smith Halsted Pazdzior When we hand trains off to the BNSF, we change at Kostner Ave./Cicero B/Hole in the fence at the east end of Cicero, not quite to the yard.
Halsted Pazdzior Matthew S. Smith appreciate the info because I was looking everywhere for this train.
Matthew S. Smith Halsted Pazdzior No problem. Sometimes it will sit for a while, and others there a BNSF crew there shortly. Bad thing is not a good spot for photos.

Tearsa Vee posted, cropped
[See operates everything except the side loaders.]

Eddie posted a 1985 picture looking east from the Laramie overpass.

A video of an engine going into the "house" and then some pans of the engines alerady in the "house." Then the engine that came in pulls out 6952 and 2008. With all of the radiators 6952 had on its side, I thought it was a Tier 4 engine. But The Diesel Shop shows it as an ES44C4 built 2-6/12.

A video of the hump yard in action. As the two tank cars go down, you can see container cars in the background. But then the background trains becomes boxcars. I spotted transfer engines from Conrail and GT. I could not figure out what the blue engine was. Is it a GM demonstrator? At -1:37 you see cars rolling to their position on multiple classification tracks at the same time.

Chuck Zeller took a photo of some PC and Conrail locos in Clyde Yard, but he caught a yard tower and a bunch of cabooses in the background.

Art Gross Flickr links of 1994 photos taken from Laramie Avenue overpass looking East and West. His comment: "A few years after this shot, BNSF closed the hump and removed most of the classification tracks from the east end of the yard, the Ogden Ave. bridge (in the distance) also came down making for a substantially different view."

Art Gross Flickr 1997 Photo of a CN freight with DW&P SD40 5906 on point. I had just learned from Arturo in a series of comments (CN train pulling out of Clyde heading south on BRC tracks to Clearing Yard) the day before that CN had haulage rights over BNSF to access Chicago directly.

Donald Haskel caught an 1965 overview of the hump and other facilities.
Dennis DeBruler So much history. Not only the hump and its tower; but refers; a tank car with a frame; running boards; and boxcars with a railroad name, slogan and/or logo on them.
Dennis DeBruler This must have been taken from the Laramie overpass looking west. The smokestack on the left was a little east of the roundhouse.

Art Gross Flickr 1994 Photo (source) of the East end when it still had its hump yard.
Art Gross Flickr 1994 Photo looking West from Laramie Ave. overpass including the wheeled gantry cranes in the part of the yard that had already been converted to intermodal service
Art Gross Flickr 1994 Photo looking East from Laramie Ave. overpass including the old Ogden overpass.
Art Gross Flickr 1997 Photo looking West from Laramie Ave overpass

Juice Junkie caught the wood coaling tower, a couple of truss spans and two smokestacks.

Joseph Clayton posted fourteen images with the comment: "The CB & Q Clyde Roundhouse in Cicero, IL. 4 stalls still exist right off Ogden Ave." [Some of the photo captions sounded familiar.]






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